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PLEASE NOTE THAT THE RESULTS UNDER "GTX 560" ARE FOR THE "TI" EDITION OF THE CARD. WHEN I DID THESE RESULTS I WAS NOT AWARE THERE WOULD BE A NON-TI VERSION. PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THEM

Introduction:
Since the GTX 560 has been released, its had a lot of buzz surrounding it and a lot of people on the previous GTX 460s may be wondering whether its a worthy upgrade to their cards' successor. I ran the GTX 460 at both stock and the speeds of a 560 to see the difference from the extra shaders and "tweaks" and added a 6950 to the mix. Lets find out how it got on. biggrin.gif

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Intel Core i7-920 4.2Ghz (200x21)
ASUS P6T WS Professional
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Western Digital Caviar Black (OS)
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
All cards were run at reference frequencies unless stated otherwise.


Drivers Used*:
AMD Catalyst 11.1a (hotfix)
Forceware 266.66


Graphics Cards Tested:
Radeon HD 6950
Zotac GeForce GTX 460
Gainward GeForce GTX 560 Ti


Games Tested**:
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - Crack The Sky mission (5 minutes FRAPS)
Crysis Warhead - Frost (benchmark tool)
Dirt 2 - London (benchmark tool - first race in the game)
Just Cause 2 - Concrete Jungle (benchmark tool - more stressful than when actully playing the game) *no minimum fps were provided*
Lost Planet 2 - Test A (benchmark tool - very identical to real gameplay)
Metro 2033 - Frontlines (benchmark tool - more stressful than when actully playing the game)


* Quality settings within Catalyst Control Centre and NVIDIA control panel were
set to the "Quality" preset, with AA and AF controlled by the Application. MLAA was not used with the AMD cards.
** BC2 was benchmarked for the first 5 minutes of the mission using FRAPS, and I tried to follow the same consistency on every run for the most "fair" results. For all other games, the benchmark tool included or associated with them was used.



Pictures of the card:

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The cooler is pretty compact and doesn't look too amazing in terms of cooling ability, with only 2 heatpipes and a design that doesn't look as good as even the reference heatsink, but we'll see how it goes later on. There is also no cooling on the VRM area, but there is some air brushing past so they shouldn't get too hot. Another thing to point out that this card is very small. It is about 7" or so, so if you're looking for a powerful card for an ITX case or something small then this is something to consider.
Edited by Razi3l - 9/1/11 at 10:26am
    
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Results:

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GTX 560 performance advantage over 460 at the same clocks:
BC2.........avg 7.6%.........min 5.7%
CryWh....avg 10.6..........min 10.7
Dirt 2.......avg 4%............min 5%
JC2.........avg 11.8%
LP2..........avg 12.2%.......min 5.2%
Metro......avg 13%..........min 7%


Temperatures (*celcius):
HD 6950: idle 45 load 82.5
GTX 460: idle 41 load 81
GTX 560: idle 40 load 81


Conclusion:
Before I conclude this review, I must point out that I didn't want to use benchmark tools (i'd prefer to benchmark actual gameplay) and that I planned to do more games, however I didn't have the time and so I couldn't do that. If you were looking for a huge collection of games tested, or some of the ones I did last time, then you'll be disappointed so.

Now, the GTX 560 Ti is a great card and performs very well. Its a good step up from the previous gen GTX 460 and is almost up there with the faster 6950 in some cases. It is also a very power efficient card, and runs relatively cool. However, there are a few things i didn't like. This perticular card, for example, is a bit noisy under load and due to the size and the location of the DVI ports (duel height) there may be some problems when installing aftermarket coolers. The cooler on this perticular card isn't too good. Considering the price of this card and the fact that it is a somewhat high-end product, it is disappointing to see Palit/Gainward go for a cooler that can just about cut it for a GTX 460 (I have owned the GTX 460 version of this), let alone a 560 Ti which runs hotter, however I also noticed that the TIM was applied pretty badly, and when I say badly, I mean there was a lot of it just covering the GPU, so replacing that should give you about 5c drop in temps (and thus less noise). This card is, however, very small and for that reason it is perfect for PCs that are built for LANs (micro-ATX/ITX) where you wouldn't necessarily hear the noisy fan over the noise of the game or people at the convention.

However the largest problem in my opinion is the price the GTX 560 Ti is selling for. Retailing for an average price of £200 is pretty high, considering a 1GB HD 6950 can be had for about the same and that performs much better. We must also not forget that the GTX 460 and 470 aren't too far away from this card in terms of performance, and yet they cost a lot less. Especially since the difference between the GTX 460 and 560 Ti in performance at the same clock speeds isn't huge enough to justify the much higher price you pay for the latter, and the fact that the GTX 460 overclocks very well to easily reach similar speeds.

If you're thinking of upgrading from a GTX 460 (1GB) to a GTX 560 Ti, then forget it, because it isn't worth it at the current price. Most GTX 460s can hit around 800MHz on stock voltage, and with additional voltage, they can reach around 900Mhz core which is brilliant and about enough to match a stock GTX 560 Ti.

In short then, the GTX 560 Ti is a very fast card that can almost keep up with the 6950, and if you're thinking of an upgrade from the DX10 generation, then you should consider it, however if you're already running a GTX 460 then its not worth it considering the much higher price you would pay and the fact that at the same clocks (which the majority of GTX 460s can reach easily) it is roughly 11% faster. And if you are willing to add more voltage your card could potentially reach much higher speeds.

Thanks for reading and all feedback appreciated. Please keep this thread clean. ~Razi3l


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Another review by Razi3L! Can't wait to see the results. Great job and appreciate the time and effort you put into this, thx.
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Bump for results. Thanks and enjoy. xD
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epic. +rep
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Nice review...looks like the 560 is 10% "better" across the board vs the 460 OC.

I'm utterly impressed. I'll stick with my 460's as I'm not a gamer smile.gif Nice review +rep.
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Nice, makes the 460s look even better for their prices. Of course the 560 could be clocked as well, but eh, I've got more than enough GPU.
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Great info. The only concern I have is you are saying not to get a 560 over a 460 due to overclock speeds of a 460 matching a stock clock 560. 560's over clock just as well. Not sure about that Gainward card though, looks like a crap cooler.

I have to say that GTX460 1GB cards can be a great deal. I was just at Frys, they have PNY GTX460 1GB cards for $149 after MIR. That is a better price for performance than a GTX560.
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post #9 of 18
yeh the 1gb gtx 460s are really looking tempting

the asus Direct CU 1gb gtx 460 was $120 amir

Thats 1gb gtx 460 sli for the price of a gtx 560 smile.gif
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Good stuff +Rep!
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