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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
So today I got this "I need you to price a cheap but expandable tower. It does not need all the high end stuff. Go basic but with the option to upgrade. If you have any questions please call me."

Here's what I have put together.
Newegg List
I don't really like the small case, since this system will be on likely 24/7 do you guys think this case would be okay when running that much? In addition, down the road they may want to put a PCI-E graphics card on...thus possibly needing more cooling then?
I chose this mini case, because it seems like a steal because it comes with a 400Watt 2.2 PSU. (I think 2.2 is the new style, that actually puts out what it says, +/- 15%) - Will this PSU be enough to power those components, and a DVD Drive of their choice (may reuse one, not sure yet).

Any other suggestions? I don't want to go to quad core, just to leave that as the expandability option. I don't really want to spend MORE than this here that I have, except if I have to go with a different case and PSU.
EDIT: The ram I have selected is 1333, the board claims to support 1333(O.C.) - Does this mean I will face issues trying to get this ram to run properly, (and cool)?
Edited by Stripes - 2/22/11 at 3:44pm
post #2 of 12
How much time is this setup supposed to last before the first major upgrade?
You know, if you really don't have more money to put into the build, then there really isn't much to point out, but if you do, you should choose a LGA1155 socket, or wait until AM3+ is lauched. Those will assure you upgradability, Socket 775 is practically dead, and so will be LGA1156 in a few months, AM3 likewise, if it turns out to be proved that new AMD chips won't be backwards compatible.

About the case, unless it is planned to seat a very big graphics card, like a GTX570/580 or a HD69XX series it will be fine.
400W will be enough for that system, but if you put there a mid-high-end GPU it won't.
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WD2500AAKS WD3200AAKS WD10EARS WD3200JB 
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Asus DRW-1608P2 Asus DRW-1608P2 Corsair H70 Ubuntu Server 10.10 x64 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 ASUS VW193S Logitech EX100 LC-Power 650W 
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post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well, I'd like to keep it at $300. I understand 775 is outdated, but they still offer cheap parts. I would go AMD but I want this to run cool, and I feel that the 775 isn't a problem due to the budget, if it were $400...I'd switch socket types.
post #4 of 12
Dont forget the operating system. you never stated if they have one they can use or not.
post #5 of 12
Well, for $300 you can't choose that much
If you aren't buying a dedicated graphics card i suppose that the rig won't be doing any heavy tasks, but browsing the internet a few office documents, am i right? if that is the case it will last 1-2 years until a new OS is launched.

When a PCI-E graphics card is installed they will have to make sure that they aren't buying a too powerfull one in order to maintain the PSU. Something like a GTS450 or a HD5670 would work there with no problems.
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
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Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Asus DRW-1608P2 Asus DRW-1608P2 Corsair H70 Ubuntu Server 10.10 x64 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 ASUS VW193S Logitech EX100 LC-Power 650W 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD2500AAKS WD3200AAKS WD10EARS WD3200JB 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Asus DRW-1608P2 Asus DRW-1608P2 Corsair H70 Ubuntu Server 10.10 x64 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 ASUS VW193S Logitech EX100 LC-Power 650W 
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post #6 of 12
On a budget like this why not go AMD?

BIOSTAR A780L3L AM3 AMD 760G $35 after MIR shipped

AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz $72 shipped

Antec NEO ECO 400C 400W $35 shipped

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) $42 shipped

Xigmatek ASGARD II $40 shipped nice understated black case

+ your $40 HDD and $18 cd/dvd drive = $282 shipped after MIR or $292 before
For a tri core with a very nice PSU and clean case.
Edited by LuckySe7ens - 2/22/11 at 5:25pm
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phenom ii B97 ECS A970M-A AM3+ EVGA GXT 460 2x4gb adata 
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OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung F3 1TB Samsung f3 1tb Samsung HD155UI 
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post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I made a note about the PSU may need upgraded down the road if they desire a decent GPU. It's for a business system, just needs to run the business networking software and use internet and such, however I just built them an extreme (imo) system for CAD and Cabinet programs for around $700, so they shouldn't expect this to do such a task for this price.

I'd go with AMD but I figured it'd run too hot to be on 24/7 unless I put more money into it (don't have over $300 for parts). I'm up for a suggestion on the complete AMD system as long as it runs nice and cool 24/7 and has at least 4GB Ram, and Decent Dual or Tri core. It's been a while since I looked into AMD and the upgrade ability options. AM2+ I presume? I have about 4 hours to submit my estimate though, so keep that in mind. -Thanks

Edit :
I just used the 3 items you recommended and the rest of what I had (used a case instead of the one I had, and the PSU you chose) and it was only 3 bucks cheaper...mainly because of the case, but the motherboard doesn't have me set either, kinda looks cheap.

The O.S. is up to them, not me. Thanks for noticing that out for me though.
Edited by Stripes - 2/22/11 at 4:51pm
post #8 of 12
im editing my previous post adding some links to give you an idea
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phenom ii B97 ECS A970M-A AM3+ EVGA GXT 460 2x4gb adata 
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OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung F3 1TB Samsung f3 1tb Samsung HD155UI 
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OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung F3 1TB Samsung f3 1tb Samsung HD155UI 
Optical DriveOSMonitorPower
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Bitfenix Raider 
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post #9 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stripes View Post

The O.S. is up to them, not me. Thanks for noticing that out for me though.
No worries i just didnt want you to get into a mind set that you had it all figured out then then realise with dissapointment you are still 100$ under in cost

good luck sir!
post #10 of 12
Why don't you get an AthlonII 240E ???? Throw in a cheap Am3 mobo and you're done.

I mean you have already been told by everybody it's a waste of money buying a new 775 right now.....
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