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6 is less than 5!? Thats unpossible

I would suggest taking it. If you really don't like the 6 sell it and buy what you like. Trying to get them to do more would be difficult. Does the 6 sell for more than the 5 though? Worth looking.
I paid 225 for the 5870 just 3 weeks ago. The 6870 might go for 200 at best.


@ matroska-

Thanks for the advice, I'll try that.
I don't see why they would offer me a card that's not as powerful. The manager even said it isn't as powerful as the 5870 over the phone, but he said in crossfire they're the same since the 6xxx series scales better.
However, I only plan on using 1 card for a while, hence the reason why I sold my 5770's.
    
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For free I can get a 6870.
For $40 I can get a 6950.
For $100 I can get a 6970.


I see the best deal there being the 6950.
Does anyone beg to differ?

They're all reference cards btw.
XFX will pay for my shipping and will send the card to me before I need to ship out the 5870.
    
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Well, since they are all reference, if that 6950 is a 2GB card, pay the $40 more for the 6950 for a chance to unlock to a 6970.
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Next time buy Sapphire or Asus, Ive done a couple RMA's with sapphire and it may not be the faster but service is outstanding, Asus ive only ever RMA'ed to 1 time but turn around was fast.
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$40 for a reference 6950 is a good deal, even if it is the 1GB version. If it is the 2GB version, as AuraNova said, you got a chance to unlock it to a 6970, it would be a very good bonus
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Only thing that was bad with my RMA card was the amount of thermal compound they used. There's no reason to use that much; it was actually insulating the heat on the gpu.

A bent bracket is kinda bad, but I guess they aren't worried about it since it doesn't affect the performance of the card.

I think I'll be a fan of Asus/EVGA for a while.
I have no idea what idiot does the thermal compound its insane, I personally haven't opened up my XFX reference 5870 yet but when I opened up my 8800GT for cleaning I was absolutely shocked at the amount of thermal compound... I couldn't even see the damn GPU.. I just knew it was in the middle of all the muck and the 2 small squarish much pieces that stuck out.

All in all after the cleaning ended up getting 15C-20C less in Max temps... scary stuff. Card would sit at a comfortable 105C before =P


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$40 for a reference 6950 is a good deal, even if it is the 1GB version. If it is the 2GB version, as AuraNova said, you got a chance to unlock it to a 6970, it would be a very good bonus
I honestly still don't fully understand the "unlocking of a X8X(3-5-7)0 to a X870 or X890, or X970 or whatever. The fact remains that your overclocking the GPU but just tricking it to think its a 6970 with a Heatsink not designed to cope with the temp increase, I mean it can handle it, just as a 6970 can handle the same overclock % that you would be doing in the case of a 6950.



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I paid 225 for the 5870 just 3 weeks ago. The 6870 might go for 200 at best.


@ matroska-

Thanks for the advice, I'll try that.
I don't see why they would offer me a card that's not as powerful. The manager even said it isn't as powerful as the 5870 over the phone, but he said in crossfire they're the same since the 6xxx series scales better.
However, I only plan on using 1 card for a while, hence the reason why I sold my 5770's.
I'm in a similar position with my 5870 right now.. I'm like 6870 and 69XX rock 5XXX socks off performance to $ wise.

Considering I've seen 6870's drop below 200$ fairly frequently and couple of times seen new 5870's drop below 200$ (XFX non-ref mind you hence WHY I didn't press the order button) makes me seriously ponder if it is worth touching crossfire to get by the next couple years till I do my Haswell build (2013.. ATI prob in their 9XXX by then)
Edited by Neokolzia - 3/2/11 at 4:43pm
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$40 for a reference 6950 is a good deal, even if it is the 1GB version. If it is the 2GB version, as AuraNova said, you got a chance to unlock it to a 6970, it would be a very good bonus
I was offered the 6950 1GB for free, but I can't really use all of my accessories then.


Thanks for all your input guys, but I'm not interested in unlocking my card.
I'd rather pay another $60 just to get the 6970.

I'll probably just get the 2GB 6950.
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I was offered the 6950 1GB for free, but I can't really use all of my accessories then.


Thanks for all your input guys, but I'm not interested in unlocking my card.
I'd rather pay another $60 just to get the 6970.

I'll probably just get the 2GB 6950.
From what I've seen game to game there isn't much of a difference between 1GB and 2GB cards, in cases like 460's bit of a different senario since we are dipping below 1GB.

Performance wise I haven't seen a large fluctuation vs 1GB and 2GB, in a number of scenarios that aren't high tessellation driven 5870 more or less keeps up with the 6950 2GB, -5% behind in some cases.

Though there is enough of a performance deviation forming between 1GB and 2GB+ that I would argue at this point for any sort of longevity 2GB is the way to go whether it be 6950 or 6970, as there is again a fair performance gap between those 2.

Just having gone through the thread, I'm glad to hear also that you managed to Convince XFX otherwise, I'll have to go through in a bit more detail to extract your methods in case I come into a similar situation. But from what I've seen alot of companies want you to keep purchasing from their vendor of course since its so easy to switch to another for near identical pricing.
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Sent my ASUS mobo awhile ago, still haven't received anything back. Not even an email confirming it was received haha, just kinda waiting now.
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Just having gone through the thread, I'm glad to hear also that you managed to Convince XFX otherwise, I'll have to go through in a bit more detail to extract your methods in case I come into a similar situation. But from what I've seen alot of companies want you to keep purchasing from their vendor of course since its so easy to switch to another for near identical pricing.
All I did was ask to speak to a manager.
He was sick one day, had a 2 hour lunch break the next day.

I left a message on his machine and he called back 15 minutes later.
Every time I've left a message, he's called back in less than 20 minutes. Excellent service if you ask me!
    
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