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Here you go. http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-PERC-5i-SAT...item2561725b3e

RAID 5 using the on-board controller = you will hate the system
    
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I would not recommend anything over 2 TB because of how long it takes to fully formant a 3 TB drive. My 2 TB takes about 2 days to format. Also the bigger the drive, the longer seek times to pull your data.
You mean the full format in Windows? Why not just do a quick format?
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I just got two of the same drive. Then I use SyncBack to copy any changes over to the other drive nightly. That way I always have a backup less than a day old and I don't have to rebuild an array or worry about what happens if my RAID dies. I can just toss in another drive in place of the old one and let it keep the schedule.
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I just got two of the same drive. Then I use SyncBack to copy any changes over to the other drive nightly. That way I always have a backup less than a day old and I don't have to rebuild an array or worry about what happens if my RAID dies. I can just toss in another drive in place of the old one and let it keep the schedule.
I was thinking of doing something similar to that, but I wanted all my drives to appear as one single entity whenever accessing it.. and isn't that Raid 0 with more than 2 drives?


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Here you go. http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-PERC-5i-SAT...item2561725b3e

RAID 5 using the on-board controller = you will hate the system
I did see that one, however I noticed it was used. Think it'll be a problem? Also, what does "2 drive cable" mean? I remember your analogy and..


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Just a quick note on this - the PERCs don't have 2 channels at all. They have 8 ports. The 8 ports on the PERCs (and most other RAID cards) are available through a 4-port multilane connector, but that is just a single connector at one end of a cable with 4 sets of contacts in that run to the separate 4 ports at the other end of the cable. Nothing is shared, and all the ports are completely separate.
^ that explination. So, I would plug this controller in, then grab a cable, plug one end into the card, and the other into 4 harddrives, then the other channel with the final harddrive? Or would the other channel be used to backup, where as the first channel is controlling the raid 0? Wouldn't that only be a total of 4 harddrives then? Unless it's raid 5, then I'd put four drives on one controller, and a fifth drive on the second controller, and have a spare drive somewhere laying around in the event of a drive failure?

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You mean the full format in Windows? Why not just do a quick format?
Probably to check for bad sectors/verifying that the drive is 100% OK.





This post is huge. I appreciate all the help so far everyone. +rep for all!
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Two suggestions:

PSU: Go for the Antec Neo Eco 520W PSU. It's half the cost, 80+, and from their eco line. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371030
Edit: Just read that you're looking for a modular PSU. Any particular reason why this is so important?

HDD: Stay away from the WD Green drives for file servers. They don't work well with RAID should you find yourself needing it, and you can find cheaper, more versatile drives in the Samsung lineup (F3 or F4 1,2TB drives).


Also, have you picked an operating system yet? That should play into your budget as well if you're going commercial (WHS ~$100). I use FreeNAS in my server, which is obviously the free option.
Edited by Xyxyll - 2/23/11 at 6:41pm
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Why is everyone insisting he buy a RAID controller? His system will be largely limited by his network capabilities and software RAID will be more than adequate considering the system specs.
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Why is everyone insisting he buy a RAID controller? His system will be largely limited by his network capabilities and software RAID will be more than adequate considering the system specs.
Because disk I/O on a RAID 5 would be terrible, for one. The second is if he needs to move the RAID to another PC he can do so with little headache (provided it's Windows)
    
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Two suggestions:

PSU: Go for the Antec Neo Eco 520W PSU. It's half the cost, 80+, and from their eco line. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371030
Edit: Just read that you're looking for a modular PSU. Any particular reason why this is so important?

HDD: Stay away from the WD Green drives for file servers. They don't work well with RAID should you find yourself needing it, and you can find cheaper, more versatile drives in the Samsung lineup (F3 or F4 1,2TB drives).


Also, have you picked an operating system yet? That should play into your budget as well if you're going commercial (WHS ~$100). I use FreeNAS in my server, which is obviously the free option.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm looking for a modular PSU for heat & power reduction. I read that somewhere, though I have no sources to back it up. I'll switch the PSU to what you suggested, it has enough Sata Power, and is a little cheaper.

Due to overwhelming disregard for the Caviar Green's, I've changed to Spinpoint F4s

I have picked out an OS, I was thinking about trying FreeNAS or Openfiler, however I'll probably just install a stripped down version of some Linux Distro. Maybe Ubuntu, Arch or Cent, haven't given it much thought.



Regarding my network capabilities, that's another story entirely. I was thinking of asking around here or somewhere else (seeing as how this is mostly a computing forum). I wasn't sure if I should buy a powerful wireless router + bridge for the eventual HTPC that's going to be downstairs (pretty much directly under me) or a cheap 5-8 point gigabit switch + WAP.

Either way everything is going to be gigabit.
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Because disk I/O on a RAID 5 would be terrible, for one. The second is if he needs to move the RAID to another PC he can do so with little headache (provided it's Windows)
Exactly. RAID 5 is still moderately heavy on resources (parity calculation), so performance can completely bog down if you do a lot of small writes with the onboard chip. If anything I'd say software raid/fakeraid would perform better than the onboard chip.

Sure, it uses your main CPU, but realistically, how often will you saturate that?
    
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My thought is if he is really going to use the server in the manner he wishes, then build it once and build it right. That way you won't have any headaches down the road. Lastly, if he is seriously considering a Linux Distro then the onboard RAID won't work (best to my limited knowledge).
    
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