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Please refer to page number 58 in your linked document. The max temperature is stated as being 70.
I understand where you are coming from, and I should have clarified in my previous post. The "tctl max" temperature the document is not referencing is the actual physical temperature of the CPU housing/case/die. It is referencing a temperature scale. It will be much easier for me to give you the source:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...972&postcount=

Pretty interesting. I figure that if the cores max temperature is 70, and the temperature is read from the NB sensor in the CPU, then the actual temp of the core will be higher. Because of the sensor location, I still suggest that the OP does not run the CPU higher than 62C.
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Well, when phenoms go over 62 degrees, what should happed? Shouldnt it shut down?
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I don't believe there is a thermal shutdown built in the chips, but correct me if I'm wrong. I remember setting a max temp back in the day for my intel chips in the bios to throttle when they reach a certain degree.

Oh, and don't go over 62 degrees.
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I understand where you are coming from, and I should have clarified in my previous post. The "tctl max" temperature the document is not referencing is the actual physical temperature of the CPU housing/case/die. It is referencing a temperature scale. It will be much easier for me to give you the source:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...972&postcount=

Pretty interesting. I figure that if the cores max temperature is 70, and the temperature is read from the NB sensor in the CPU, then the actual temp of the core will be higher. Because of the sensor location, I still suggest that the OP does not run the CPU higher than 62C.
Then according to this page my knowledge isn't correct on AMD CPUs. And in fact all of the temperatures are just whatever the board is reporting back. Whereas in Intel's case it is in fact possible to get the real core temperature and go by that.

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Well, when phenoms go over 62 degrees, what should happed? Shouldnt it shut down?
Pretty sure I've seen my chip reach 64c without shutting off during an experiment to see just how far it could go. But I may be remembering incorrectly.
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first of all if your fan is going at normal speed with smart fan control on you need to turn it off. Secondly overclocking on stock coolers is really stupid to do in the first place when you're trying to overclock that high.
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Well, when phenoms go over 62 degrees, what should happed? Shouldnt it shut down?
It will not automatically shut down. I have had my Phenom II get up to 63c back when I was on air cooling, there was no throttling or shutdown. But, Phenom IIs have a tendency to become less stable when temps get over ~55c
    
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Running your cpu at damn near max recommended temperature is just not smart. Dust buildup on the cooler and ambient temperature variation in the room (if applicable) can create more heat. IE, you've not cleaned your computer since overclocking it 6 months ago, and now it's summer, and 15 degrees hotter in your room.

You forgot how close you were to the temp barrier, and really don't give it any thought. When in actuality, the cpu is screaming for help and you're not paying attention.

If your temps are too high, don't overclock it as hard. Get a better cooling solution.
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Phenom's thermal shutoff is around 90°C, because that's the max the silicon can take. That doesn't say it's safe to run your chip up to 90°C ofcourse ...


Also Licht, core temps are "calculated" but I'm not sure on what. They represent the temps of each core on the die.
The "CPU Temp" is readed from a sensor on the motherboard and represents the packaging (or case if you want to call it like that) temperature.
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Well, the thing is that I have been running these temps for 8 months now.
I have not experienced any unstableness, shut downs or anything similar.

In fact I was oblivious to the fact that it was running at these temps until I tried a tiny overclock and monitored them and they were too high. then undid the overclock and its still the same.

Right now it has almost no thermal paste on and it is running cooler than when it was on.

Idle temp is 34c and it doubles when under load!
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Well, the thing is that I have been running these temps for 8 months now.
I have not experienced any unstableness, shut downs or anything similar.

In fact I was oblivious to the fact that it was running at these temps until I tried a tiny overclock and monitored them and they were too high. then undid the overclock and its still the same.

Right now it has almost no thermal paste on and it is running cooler than when it was on.

Idle temp is 34c and it doubles when under load!
You need to re-seat your heatsink with a good TIM like Arctic Silver 5. I am surprised your CPU hasn't fried yet given the temps its been weathering.
    
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