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Bought the Rasa kit a while back, decided to lap it last night and oh my.
2hours of lapping.


After 3 hours of lapping



I eventually got it down to where only a circular area remained where the X was, but I ran out of sandpaper after using every single bit I could. . and it was 4 am in the morn, so no getting in the car and buying more. .

dropped my temps by 1-3C Idle and 6-8C load, do note that there is still a small crater of 5mm x 5mm / 5mm dia. in the middle.

-10 Brownie points to XSPC.

Just thought I'd share.

Peace
Edited by DullBoi - 2/23/11 at 6:42am
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Lawl mad skillz
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OMG.... I am having problems with imageshack... I can't see any pictures uploaded on them..

Tried on chrome, firefox, and epiphany. I'm on ubuntu btw
    
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Nice lapping skillz.
     
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I work in a foundry and I pour iron, and I've actually seen this happen in the iron that I pour into the molds. It has to do with the iron being too cool while it fills the mold. Causes gas pockets and whatnot. That's what it looks like happened here with this specific cast.

I'm not exactly sure how they manufacture these copper blocks, but I'd imagine its the same way - in the most basic of terms. Looks like the batch of copper they used was too cool, and the quality tester didn't pay close enough attention to the test sample he took. Tsk Tsk.
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I work in a foundry and I pour iron, and I've actually seen this happen in the iron that I pour into the molds. It has to do with the iron being too cool while it fills the mold. Causes gas pockets and whatnot. That's what it looks like happened here with this specific cast.

I'm not exactly sure how they manufacture these copper blocks, but I'd imagine its the same way - in the most basic of terms. Looks like the batch of copper they used was too cool, and the quality tester didn't pay close enough attention to the test sample he took. Tsk Tsk.
That makes sense.

Only problem is now I have to lap it again due to my lack of having 9999999999m of sandpaper, as where last time when I lapped 2 x Q6600 and Zalman CNP - (something) and a True 120 with less sandpaper than I used on this block alone . . .

total of 5 hours . . .XSPC should say, buy this block and work your arse off to get it working at peak performance!!

I'd recommend the WB and Kit to anyone, but I'd state that its mandatory to lap the WB before the first install.

Anyone that has bad temperatures with this kit or WB.

LAP IT.
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That makes sense.

Only problem is now I have to lap it again due to my lack of having 9999999999m of sandpaper, as where last time when I lapped 2 x Q6600 and Zalman CNP - (something) and a True 120 with less sandpaper than I used on this block alone . . .

total of 5 hours . . .XSPC should say, buy this block and work your arse off to get it working at peak performance!!

I'd recommend the WB and Kit to anyone, but I'd state that its mandatory to lap the WB before the first install.

Anyone that has bad temperatures with this kit or WB.

LAP IT.
This almost seems like a manufacturing error. I don't know how the company would respond to it since you lapped it to find out, but I bet they'd be willing to get you a new one simply for pointing it out to them. Worth a shot, at least. It does seem like a flawed product. Who knows, maybe they have a certain amount of lee-way in air pockets in their blocks.

Kinda like the chocolate factory has a certain amount of bugs they are allowed to be included in their mixes
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I've had very good experiences with XSPC in the past, though you probably should have sent it back as soon as you got it, I can't see it being an issue.
    
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OMG.... I am having problems with imageshack... I can't see any pictures uploaded on them..

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Yeah, it says unregistered domain for me too.
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The blocks are supposed to have a slight bow to them, but definitely not a crater! Holy.
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