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My current system is fine but when Intel Ivy Bridge is out, I intend to upgrade pretty much everything (using the same case, though - Cooler Master HAF 932). With it, I want a custom watercooling loop (my first one). This is what I currently have in mind:

- CPU Block: HEATKILLER CPU Rev3.0 Water Block = £52.19
- Pump: 12V Laing D5 Vario Swiftech MCP655 Pump = £87.59
- Reservoir: XSPC Laing DDC Acrylic Tank Reservoir = £23.99
- Radiator: Black Ice SR-1 360 Radiator = £107.47
- Fans: 3x A.C. Ryan Blackfire4 120mm Fans = £19.77
- Tubing:
- Fittings:
- Water Agent: 10ml PT Nuke Concentrated Biocide = £2.99


Note that I'm only buying three 120mm fans with all this because I already have another three of the same model that I will use in a push/pull configuration. Also note that the price of the CPU water block is the one for Intel Sandy Bridge. There might be a new one for Intel Ivy Bridge or there might not be - the price I put up there is a good estimate nonetheless.

Anyway, I post here asking three questions:

1. Do you think I should change some of the components above for something better? (I'm looking for pretty much top-of-the-line stuff here)
2. What tubing and fittings should I use to ensure tight seals with the minimum risk of leaks?
3. Do you think the motherboard components (Northbridge and Southbridge) are worth watercooling?


I want to add that I might also buy a graphics card water block to put in this loop. The loop would serve one CPU and one graphics card, maximum, nothing more (unless I include motherboard components in there, too), although I'd obviously overclock everything as much as possible. Thank you!
    
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Watercooling the motherboard is useless, unless you are going for some crazy overclocks, but new motherboards have good enough cooling power anyway

Tubing.. Primochill 7/16 tubing (or Tygon) with 1/2 fittings (Compression fitting if you want to be extra secure) even tho this is VERY secure

EK Supreme HF full nickel is kinda the best block atm so if they release a new one for ivy bridge I am pretty sure it will still be the best (EK blocks) remove that heatkiller

Radiator.. get RX360 (make sure you have fast fans like 1800 RPM) or stick to the one you picked its still decent

The pump is nice, I am using that too but with EK TOP, makes it even better and more silent
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Watercooling the motherboard is useless, unless you are going for some crazy overclocks, but new motherboards have good enough cooling power anyway

Tubing.. Primochill 7/16 tubing (or Tygon) with 1/2 fittings (Compression fitting if you want to be extra secure) even tho this is VERY secure

EK Supreme HF full nickel is kinda the best block atm so if they release a new one for ivy bridge I am pretty sure it will still be the best (EK blocks) remove that heatkiller

Radiator.. get RX360 (make sure you have fast fans like 1800 RPM) or stick to the one you picked its still decent

The pump is nice, I am using that too but with EK TOP, makes it even better and more silent

I agree with this guy in everything he said.

And to add 1 more thing, get Gentle Typhoon 1850RPM fans instead, they're the best for radiators.
    
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I dont know whats available in your area but

swiftech 320qp do you just as good as the sr1 and its cheaper

rasa cpu block instead of heatkiller
I have the heatkiller v3 does me great but the rasa is suppose to 2c better on cooling
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The pump and pump top you currently have in your build are not compatible. You have a pump top for a Laing DDC Pump but you have a Laing D5. I would recommend switching the pump to the more powerful Laing DDC 3.2 or 3.25. (Also known as the MCP355 and MCP35X).
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Hmmm, a lot to think about. Thank you for your input, +rep to all!
I'll forget about motherboard component cooling then and stick to cooling the CPU and graphics card.

7/16 tubing with 1/2" fittings it is, then. I will also look into those Gentle Typhoon fans and decide whether to change my fans or not. I wouldn't really mind doing so, so I'm up for it if it's a good change.

Kind of confused on the pump, radiator and CPU water block side of things then!
I really thought HEATKILLER Rev3.0 was the best out there. Didn't know EK produced a better water block, or XSPC RASA for that matter. As for the radiator, yeah, the XSPC RX360 is available where I'm looking to buy the kit from, for £25 cheaper than the one I listed. Would it really be better than the SR-1?
I know more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better (it rarely does these days), I'm just checking. As for the pump, I really also thought the Swiftech MCP655 was the best out there. If it is, recommend a compatible reservoir, please?

Thanks very much guys!

EDIT: This tubing I'm looking at operates to the maximum of 60°C - might not be good:

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/71...ose-1m_32.html

Any ideas?
Edited by Gib007 - 2/23/11 at 12:40pm
    
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Stick with the heatkiller rev3. It's the best our there. I have the rasa block and it's good but not as good as the heatkiller. However, if you do change your mind on the cpu block, you might as well buy the XSPC RASA 360 kit. As for cooling the mobo, as the above poster states, it's not worth the time or money. Spend the cash on something else for your loop. As you can see in my sig rig, I'm partial to koolance blocks for my gpu. They perform very well!
Edited by Zmanster - 2/23/11 at 12:43pm
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The MCP35X is currently the most powerful 12V DC watercooling pump available. It also has several other advantages over the 655 in that it comes with threaded ports, and that it has PWM control. This will allow the pump to become whisper quiet at idle and only slightly louder at load.

I wouldn't worry about the tubing having a rating of 60C. For one thing, the water in your loop will never be warmer than 35-40C. For another, the tubing doesn't just break at 60C, it just starts to become a little weaker. So even if you did get to 60C water temperature (maybe if all of your fans failed) then the tubing would simply be a little softer, and the worst that could happen is that it could kink.
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Thank you guys, +rep. I've decided to keep the SR-1 radiator, the HEATKILLER block and the A.C. Ryan Blackfire4 fans I originally proposed. With your help so far, though, I have got the tubing and fittings sorted. Now to the pump and reservoir. This is the list of pumps:

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/cat/...-Pumps_74.html

What should I get?
And a reservoir? (from the same site if you can)
Thank you again.
    
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Hmmm, a lot to think about. Thank you for your input, +rep to all!
I'll forget about motherboard component cooling then and stick to cooling the CPU and graphics card.

7/16 tubing with 1/2" fittings it is, then. I will also look into those Gentle Typhoon fans and decide whether to change my fans or not. I wouldn't really mind doing so, so I'm up for it if it's a good change.

Kind of confused on the pump, radiator and CPU water block side of things then!
I really thought HEATKILLER Rev3.0 was the best out there. Didn't know EK produced a better water block, or XSPC RASA for that matter. As for the radiator, yeah, the XSPC RX360 is available where I'm looking to buy the kit from, for £25 cheaper than the one I listed. Would it really be better than the SR-1?
I know more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better (it rarely does these days), I'm just checking. As for the pump, I really also thought the Swiftech MCP655 was the best out there. If it is, recommend a compatible reservoir, please?

Thanks very much guys!

EDIT: This tubing I'm looking at operates to the maximum of 60°C - might not be good:

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/71...ose-1m_32.html

Any ideas?
In the worst case of your pump failing (In which by then probably your water temps will be 60c or more), You wont have to worry about the tubing leaking whatsoever. I had a time where my pump wasn't properly connected and the result was just the tubing became softer. Just like when you put the tip into a boiling water to help sliding in the tubing to the barb.

Gentle typhoons is a good change in my opinion.

RX360 would not be better than SR-1 at low RPM, but at the same time, it will not be worse either. Really depends on your preference. Some people say the SR-1 is better built than the RX, hence the higher price.

If I were you I would choose EK Supreme HF for performance or RASA for cost effective while still maintaining the performance.
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