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Why would they not?
You honestly think that those graphics are going to be in the multiplayer? Not even Crysis and Crysis Wars have the same graphical premise.
Rendering is done on the users' PCs. I see no precedent for graphical quality being any different from single to multiplayer.
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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

Need I go on?

Jts, 64-player, destructible cities, it's like BFBC2 upgraded to a whole 'nother level.
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can't wait for gdc

imagine bf2 maps on bf3 engine O.O
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Rendering is done on the users' PCs. I see no precedent for graphical quality being any different from single to multiplayer.
You're putting more stress on the game servers and clients by having more stuff occur in the game that the servers need track and then send to other players playing so they can display the same thing. Notice how big that whole scene was with them shooting across the giant highway at the building? I doubt you'll have anything remotely similar in multiplayer. At all.

If rendering on a persons' PC has nothing to do with the quality, then why does BC2's building destruction have a MUCH more toned down effect in multiplayer than some of the singleplayer scenes? Same with Crysis.

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Jts, 64-player, destructible cities, it's like BFBC2 upgraded to a whole 'nother level.
Which is why Im worried.
I mean I like BC2, but multiplayer had its fair share of problems. Still does. And Bad Company simple isn't Battlefield - Battlefield if you know what I mean. I dont want them being similar. They have complete different feels and styles of play.

I want BF1942, BF2, BF2142, and BF1943 styled gameplay.
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This game is a must-have for me. Going to be getting it on Steam.

I hope they offer the expansion pack free of charge on Steam, too. They'd be silly not to, though, since a lot of their revenue will come from Steam.
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You're putting more stress on the game servers and clients by having more stuff occur in the game that the servers need track and then send to other players playing so they can display the same thing. Notice how big that whole scene was with them shooting across the giant highway at the building? I doubt you'll have anything remotely similar in multiplayer. At all.

If rendering on a persons' PC has nothing to do with the quality, then why does BC2's building destruction have a MUCH more toned down effect in multiplayer than some of the singleplayer scenes? Same with Crysis.
Well I've played both, and I've never noticed a difference between single and multi. I guess I'm not observant enough.
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You're putting more stress on the game servers and clients by having more stuff occur in the game that the servers need track and then send to other players playing so they can display the same thing. Notice how big that whole scene was with them shooting across the giant highway at the building? I doubt you'll have anything remotely similar in multiplayer. At all.

If rendering on a persons' PC has nothing to do with the quality, then why does BC2's building destruction have a MUCH more toned down effect in multiplayer than some of the singleplayer scenes? Same with Crysis.
I don't see what graphics have to do with servers or destruction.
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looks epic
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Why would they not?
You honestly think that those graphics are going to be in the multiplayer? Not even Crysis and Crysis Wars have the same graphical premise.
That doesn't explain why they would be worse. They would not be worse because they are the same game on the same engine?

I don't know what I think the graphics WILL be, but I don't know why they WOULD lower the graphical quality of multiplayer. I did not play Crysis Wars and have not yet finished Crysis, so I can't comment on the graphical quality of them in relation to each other.


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You're putting more stress on the game servers and clients by having more stuff occur in the game that the servers need track and then send to other players playing so they can display the same thing. Notice how big that whole scene was with them shooting across the giant highway at the building? I doubt you'll have anything remotely similar in multiplayer. At all.

If rendering on a persons' PC has nothing to do with the quality, then why does BC2's building destruction have a MUCH more toned down effect in multiplayer than some of the singleplayer scenes? Same with Crysis.
But texture and model quality doesn't change what happens on the server, only hitboxes. So in terms of that, there shouldn't be a difference. Servers don't generally run the game itself, they run a server client, which is why game servers don't need high end graphics cards. The server also shouldn't have to process any lighting or smoke or dust or anything like that, it should all be client-side (other than saying "smoke grenade was dropped at this location", then have your PC create the smoke in that position, and things of that nature).

I would understand the destructive environment would cause more stress, but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing graphics, not features of the game in terms of what can and cannot be destroyed (and to what extent it can break down). Unless you just mean particle effects and dust flying objects from the destruction? But I don't think that would cause THAT much more stress on the server.


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I want BF1942, BF2, BF2142, and BF1943 styled gameplay.
Pretty sure that everyone wants that
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Just wondering (I am really not trolling)..

Why is everyone woo-ing like crazy over the graphics and saying like Crysis 2 isn't even comparable?

I just saw the vid, well I don't think they'll release a NOT SMOOTH version and everyone's saying it's "SOOO SMOOOTH".

The "running, bumping doors, and dieing animations" doesn't really look way far and beyond what I've seen in Crysis 2. (Is this a placebo effect from hearing about EA's animation machine)

Has it been revealed as well on where exactly this vid came from? (console, pc, pre-rendered from PC?)

Has there been news on how this runs?

BFBC2 runs slower in my machine compared to Crysis franchise. (not saying this is the best indication for BF3 perf.)

I hope this is more like Crysis 2 in terms of "looking great yet running good".

Please don't get me wrong.. it really looks nothing short of stunning regardless!
Crysis is about eye-candy, gameplay is secondary. I think Dice is trying to put out a great game first, but it just so happens the graphics look extremely good as well. It will all come down to how well the BF3 multiplayer plays though. Crysis multiplayer/wars was garbage, even with good graphics.
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