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Highly unlikely.

Good on Sony. I'm glad to see a company actually getting some balls when it comes to this stuff. Pirates need to be stopped.
Considering that Sony sells the console, not the game (in general) I'd say thats fairly close.

Plus you have to factor in the negative PR. Sony's console sales will suffer from this, and if anything they are driving people into piracy.


People are less willing to pay for games when the publisher is being a giant bag of douche. Sony is making themselves the enemy, and turning any remorse the pirate might feel about depriving the developer of a sale into a justification for their recent actions. Had they just ignored fail0verflow the only people that would care are the pirates. By publicly crucifying Geohot they've turned him into a martyr, and now its front page news, and everyone knows that you can pirate PS3 games.

If they go forward with the CD-key in games, it will be cracked, and then you'll have people pirating games not because they don't want to pay for the game, but because they don't want to deal with the cd-key bull****.
    
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Wrong. I don't understand why everyone continues to think this. The PS3 has been a target for a long time, and they have been trying to crack it since the beginning. There were ton of security exploits through the OtherOS, which is why it was removed. Once it was removed, it made it even harder to crack the PS3, which then it gained more attention to hackers. Then, after 9 months it was blown open.

tl;dr: PS3 took its entire lifetime to be cracked, long before OtherOS was removed.
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Wrong. I don't understand why everyone continues to think this.
Probably because it's true.

The PS3 may have been targeted since the beginning by pirates, the majority of which know very little about computer systems. As soon as OtherOS was removed people who actually know about computer systems started to look into it. The only reason these people didn't before is because they didn't need to.

You can watch the fail0verflow videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/PS3EpicFail where they specifically go into why the PS3 has been cracked.
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When I say hackers, I mean people who is a computer programming enthusiast, for someone who is constructive not destructive. A computer programming enthusiast who is destructive is a cracker, and not welcomed by the hacker community.
Hacking doesn't mean someone is good, cracking doesn't mean someone is bad.

Happy Ryan?
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A hacker is someone who makes an item do something that it was not originally intended to do. A cracker is someone who specifically defeats security. It is not what you're doing that makes it constructive/destructive, it's what you do with that information that does.
Way to pull that out of thin air.

If you hack into something, you are a hacker. Weather you change anything or not. It can be simply for the acquisition of information.
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Way to pull that out of thin air.

If you hack into something, you are a hacker. Weather you change anything or not. It can be simply for the acquisition of information.
I won't argue that. I was mostly trying to make the point that hacking isn't necessarily constructive.

Comprehension failure ftl?
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Sony should have learned that making an enemy of your consumers doesn't end well.

If the piracy playing field were to even out between all the platforms, maybe then PC would get its fair chance.
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Sony should have learned that making an enemy of your consumers doesn't end well.

If the piracy playing field were to even out between all the platforms, maybe then PC would get its fair chance.
Going to have to disagree with you here. I don't own a PS3 nor do I have any intention of doing so. However a few friends do and although I may be interested in computers, they are not. Having said that I have told them the circumstances regarding the lawsuit vs. Geohot and what is now possible. This got quite a reaction out of them as they have noticed a pretty big spike in cheating lately.

Their collective response was something along the lines of "so this guy cracked the PS3 because he wanted that stupid OS that no one used and now everyone and their dog can pirate games and cheat online? Fry his ass."

OCN and other like minded forums may have the details of the case plastered all over their news sections but I would be willing to bet that the majority of PS3 users have no idea what is going on nor would care anyway about the removal of something they didn't use or even know was on there. All they know is cheating is on the rise and pirating will hurt them (the paying customer) in the long run when sony is forced to start putting in DRM.
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Sony must be furious LOL

As always, the Pirates will prevail.
and this is a good thing?

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The PS3 may have been targeted since the beginning by pirates, the majority of which know very little about computer systems. As soon as OtherOS was removed people who actually know about computer systems started to look into it. The only reason these people didn't before is because they didn't need to.
This has been discussed over and out in several threads. It's untrue. Plenty of people, including GeoHot, have been trying to break the PS3 since it launched. They know just as much if not more about computer systems than fail0verflow. Just because fail0verflow found the one security hole in Sony's system doesn't mean that no one else knew what they were doing. The logic behind that thought train of yours or whoever made the nonsense up is garbage.

The REASON why OtherOS got removed is because people who knew about computer systems were using Linux to break through the PS3 security. To say that only after that fact did people start to actually care is so ludicrous it isn't even a joke. The movement to break into the PS3 was plenty large before the OtherOS fiasco.
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The only ones to blame imo are sony. Their game titles (quantity and exclusives) are incredibly lacking which doesn't leave much left when it comes to utilizing the system...I guess except for except hacking and modding the crap out of it.
    
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The only ones to blame imo are sony. Their game titles (quantity and exclusives) are incredibly lacking which doesn't leave much left when it comes to utilizing the system...I guess except for except hacking and modding the crap out of it.
How are their game titles lacking? Where have you been since the PS3 launched?
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