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Yes, bulldozer looks impressive on paper, but when are they going to implement sli support? Not everyone that wants an amd processor wants to run crossfire.
that's completely up to nvidia.
crossfire is a open standard that any chipset maker can implement. SLI on the other hand is completely proprietary and nvidia wants to see money before its allowed in chipsets other then their own (if then).
since they are now basically out of the chipset business i wonder how long that will last thou (no longer a business to protect like they had before.)

and if bulldozer is a match (or better) for intel in terms of gaming they could
change their tune quickly... but this is nvidia we are talking about, and they are rather prideful so i wouldn't bet on it.
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Yes, bulldozer looks impressive on paper, but when are they going to implement sli support? Not everyone that wants an amd processor wants to run crossfire.
It's the chipset that determines SLI or not. And it's not up to AMD. But yeah, hopefully nVidia will be making chipsets for Bulldozer boards. Which would be a followup to the 980a / 750a chipsets.
Edited by Diabolical999 - 2/23/11 at 3:18pm
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What I don't understand is why they haven't released more information prior to.

Intel has already released Sandy Bridge, and is looking to be a very formidable opponent. AMD's silence could mean 1 of 2 things -- 1) They are waiting for the best moment to release the news of it's ability to compete/beat Sandy. Or, 2) It falls behind Sandy on benches, and they must market the chip again for budget builds, or task specific such as rendering, etc.
tech companies almost NEVER release actual performance info prior to launch. its bad for sales of current products. specialy when the product is still a few months away (bulldozer is slated for early summer so almost 4 months still at least)
the only exception is when their current products aren't selling any-more (like with intel's core-duo en nvidia's gtx480).

so in this case no news is good news for AMD current products.
but it tells you exactly nothing about the future product.
even if they had release info it still wouldn't tell you anything as the 2 examples testify, core duo was a success gtx480 was a pretty much a utter failure but both were praised to the heavens by their respective companies prior to launch.
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Yes, bulldozer looks impressive on paper, but when are they going to implement sli support? Not everyone that wants an amd processor wants to run crossfire.
Since AMD also sells graphics cards, they're in no hurry in giving their customers the option to use the competition's GPU's.

And this article is so 6 months ago ( literally ) LOL

Is Gtech really running out of material to talk about Bulldozer? You must hold the record for most BD threads started by anyone on the net.

Call me when something real comes out like Independent benches, most people are up to date on what it can do on PAPER, what it will do in real world remains to be seen.
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as well as "bulldoze" through serial workloads with a broad 8 integer pipeline per core, (compared to 3 on K10, and 4 on Westmere).
i don't want to be a party pooper here but that statement isn't correct.
1 module will indeed have 8 integer pipelines. but they will be divided into 2 separate/integrated cores. they cant all 8 work on the same single serial task. only 4 can work together on the same thing.

so it will be a 4 issue core, same as Intel. only 2 of them per modules in much less die area then intel can fit 2 cores.
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Since AMD also sells graphics cards, they're in no hurry in giving their customers the option to use the competition's GPU's.

And this article is so 6 months ago ( literally ) LOL
actually no, no SLI on AMD systems is completely and solely the responsibility of nvidia.
they are keeping SLI a closed standard and demand money for it in order to historically protect their own chipset business.
but now that they are out of that business they haven't changed their stance yet.
making something open or allowing something to just work for free seems to be beyond nvidia's ability to comprehend.
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actually no, no SLI on AMD systems is completely and solely the responsibility of nvidia.
they are keeping SLI a closed standard and demand money for it in order to historically protect their own chipset business.
but now that they are out of that business they haven't changed their stance yet.
making something open or allowing something to just work for free seems to be beyond nvidia's ability to comprehend.
I hear ya, but SLI / CF works fine on Intel Mobo's.

AMD is in no hurry to get SLI working on their MOBO's either, let's be real.
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Yes, bulldozer looks impressive on paper, but when are they going to implement sli support? Not everyone that wants an amd processor wants to run crossfire.
Ha if invidia had a decent card they wouldn't need sli I kid I kid!!!
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Yes, bulldozer looks impressive on paper, but when are they going to implement sli support? Not everyone that wants an amd processor wants to run crossfire.

It is my understanding the nvidia is no longer interested in making chipsets for amd platforms. Amd has not license to SLI, so they couldn't implement it even if they wanted to. Considering they compete directly with nvidia on several markets I don't think they are really interested in supporting it anyway.
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