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Poll Results: Which Setup for CS5?

 
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post #21 of 92
Okay... why are you guys recommending 570s for a photoshop machine? Yes CS5 does take advantage of CUDA, but not the way you think. What it does is it makes the experience of photoshop better. Look at the link below.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe_photoshop.html

Correct me if I am wrong here, but as far as I know the CUDA processors doesn't really process anything... It's all CPU power.

More RAM is always better, my GF is the photoshopper and she can flood 8gb in no time, mainly because she leaves a lot of stuff open. I have noticed that photoshop tends to use a lot of video ram as well. Right now she is running a 9600GS and 512mb of ram is always eaten up. If your parents are light photoshoppers then they might not need 16gb, but the usual rule of thumb is more ram is better
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You can do 4.5 on AIR quite easily with the 2500K. 4.5 has become the new 4.0 on AIR, while the 1090T would need SERIOUS Water cooling to reach 4.4 and be stable. Plus we already established that clock for clock the 2500K has the edge over a 1090T.

I wouldn't recommend a 570 or 480 as the 470 is PLENTY for your Photoshop needs, plus it's only $269 After Rebate.

The 470 I recommend has 448 CUDA cores vs 480, plus that card has a great cooler in place, and is very quiet. Make sure to read this article fully:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-bit,2770.html

Notice there's not even a mention of AMD cards in there? There's a reason for that.

The 470 will give you a smoother overall experience in Photoshop, and since they upgrade every few years, this will suit their needs for a while.

I use Photoshop and Premiere on a daily basis, and when I put my computer together I originally wanted a 1090T + 5870, and that would've been a HUGE mistake for CS5.

Today, going with a 2500K over a 1090T is a no brainer, considering we are talking about a $30 difference, and be sure to get at least 8GB RAM. ( 2 X 4GB )

I won't continue this debate, or have this possibly turn into a flame thread, do your research, I've provided you with plenty of links, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Either the 2600K or the 2500K with 8GB of DDR3 should make more than a potent combination. However I doubt they need such processing capability. If you want to save additional money in this process you can simply consider a viable alternative as the 1100T on an 890GX system.
post #24 of 92
I would personally go with a higher end Nvidia GPU (ex GTX 470), mostly because you want it to be fairly future proof and GPU acceleration appears to run better with Nvidia. When it comes to GPU computing, CUDA is much more mature and most software is developed with CUDA.

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These features specifically use Nvidia's CUDA architecture, which Soule said the company chose because it is farther along than the other platforms. The list of boards "recommended" for use with CS5 is heavily slated toward the professional Quadro line, though the GeForce 285 is also listed and it should really work on somewhat lesser boards.
How Adobe CS5 takes advantage of GPU acceleration

Your parents don't need a Quadro for what they are doing but a GTX4xx/GTX5xx would be a good choice imo.
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I would personally go with a higher end Nvidia GPU (ex GTX 470), mostly because you want it to be fairly future proof and GPU acceleration appears to run better with Nvidia.



How Adobe CS5 takes advantage of GPU acceleration

Your parents don't need a Quadro for what they are doing but a GTX4xx/GTX5xx would be a good choice imo.
Those cards are really aimed at people running Premier.

For the benefits in Photoshop, I couldn't justify dropping more than $50. I would use the IGPU and see what the performance is. Pop in your GPU and see what the performance is. If you are sold, get them a GPU.

But I don't think you will be.
    
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Well, with regards to the CPU, I'd get a 2500k and overclock it. Seeing as how PS isn't optimized for anything more than a quad core, HT won't affect performance.

With RAM, if your parents edit in RAW, I'd get 16GB. If they edit in JPEG, I'd get 8GB. Either way, panos are not fun for the PC and in my experience, more RAM is better for them.

For the GPU, my understanding is that while PS does use CUDA, it's only for specific tools and not for the entire program itself. I'd stick with normal graphics for it, really.

With the money you save going i5 instead of i7, it's probably better put towards a 1TB or 2TB storage drive. I'd personally recommend 2x1TB for redundancy, so your parents won't lose all their photos in one horrific PC crash.
post #27 of 92
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In most cases, your processor, RAM and monitor are better investments than a GPU for Photoshop acceleration.
I agree. They are getting a U3011, and at this point I'm leaning towards 16Gb regardless of everything else. RAM is cheap.
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My parents will ONLY be doing image manipulation, no encoding or video editing. I bought them Photoshop CS5 extended student edition. The biggest thing my dad has done, that I have seen, is 360 panorama shots.
I've seen my dad take a 360 panorama with 10 raw photos. Their current computer (an AMD that they have been very unhappy with) would not do it. My dad was very disappointed, and that has started this quest.
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Okay... why are you guys recommending 570s for a photoshop machine? Yes CS5 does take advantage of CUDA, but not the way you think. What it does is it makes the experience of photoshop better.....If your parents are light photoshoppers then they might not need 16gb, but the usual rule of thumb is more ram is better
My parents buy the best computer out there once every 5-7years. Their last computer, the AMD, they didn't, and are now replacing it after only 3 years.
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Either the 2600K or the 2500K with 8GB of DDR3 should make more than a potent combination. However I doubt they need such processing capability. If you want to save additional money in this process you can simply consider a viable alternative as the 1100T on an 890GX system.
They have requested an Intel machine this time, so unless there is a compelling reason(not cost) to go with AMD, then I won't try to push it on them.
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post #28 of 92
Check the link. It's a good read not saying you need to copy exactly but maybe scale the ram down. it gives a good idea what to expect.



http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how...hoto_studio_pc
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Well, with regards to the CPU, I'd get a 2500k and overclock it. Seeing as how PS isn't optimized for anything more than a quad core, HT won't affect performance.

With RAM, if your parents edit in RAW, I'd get 16GB. If they edit in JPEG, I'd get 8GB. Either way, panos are not fun for the PC and in my experience, more RAM is better for them.

For the GPU, my understanding is that while PS does use CUDA, it's only for specific tools and not for the entire program itself. I'd stick with normal graphics for it, really.

With the money you save going i5 instead of i7, it's probably better put towards a 1TB or 2TB storage drive. I'd personally recommend 2x1TB for redundancy, so your parents won't lose all their photos in one horrific PC crash.
I mentioned it in a previous post, but I was already planning a fairly extensive array. I'm a big fan of RAID1. I keep my computers just as long as my parents, and usually what happens is a HDD fails. I think the best bang for the buck is 1Tb drives right now, anything bigger gets way more expensive.
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I've seen my dad take a 360 panorama with 10 raw photos. Their current computer (an AMD that they have been very unhappy with) would not do it. My dad was very disappointed, and that has started this quest.
If your dad shoots in RAW, I'd go with 16GB of RAM then


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I mentioned it in a previous post, but I was already planning a fairly extensive array. I'm a big fan of RAID1. I keep my computers just as long as my parents, and usually what happens is a HDD fails. I think the best bang for the buck is 1Tb drives right now, anything bigger gets way more expensive.
On sale, 2TBs usually go for $10 or so more than 1TBs. Worth looking into!
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