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post #41 of 92
Although I may be repeating what other people have said since this is a four-page thread, but from the looks of it, I'd say 16GB (to deal with RAW files, or many files open at once), 2500k because photoshop can't use more than 4 cores anyways, and a mid-range nVidia GPU to get the benefits of CUDA without spending extravagant amounts for gaming power they don't need (I'm think a GTX460 or 470). I wouldn't listen to jy, I'm no fanboy, but there's no denying the fact that Sandy Bridge is just a better architecture than AMD hexa-cores. Faster clock-for-clock, more OC potential, run cooler at higher clocks.
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Although I may be repeating what other people have said since this is a four-page thread, but from the looks of it, I'd say 16GB (to deal with RAW files, or many files open at once), 2500k because photoshop can't use more than 4 cores anyways, and a mid-range nVidia GPU to get the benefits of CUDA without spending extravagant amounts for gaming power they don't need (I'm think a GTX460 or 470). I wouldn't listen to jy, I'm no fanboy, but there's no denying the fact that Sandy Bridge is just a better architecture than AMD hexa-cores. Faster clock-for-clock, more OC potential, run cooler at higher clocks.
I didnt say AMD is better than intel, because that would be wrong. AMD CPU's are better at this kind of thing though. plus you get higher value. and it can use more than 4 cores you silly person. im done here, your obviously not listening.
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Although I may be repeating what other people have said since this is a four-page thread, but from the looks of it, I'd say 16GB (to deal with RAW files, or many files open at once), 2500k because photoshop can't use more than 4 cores anyways, and a mid-range nVidia GPU to get the benefits of CUDA without spending extravagant amounts for gaming power they don't need (I'm think a GTX460 or 470). I wouldn't listen to jy, I'm no fanboy, but there's no denying the fact that Sandy Bridge is just a better architecture than AMD hexa-cores. Faster clock-for-clock, more OC potential, run cooler at higher clocks.
You pretty much nailed and summarized everything that's being said.

Well done.

Some people have to put their brand preference aside, and focus on the needs of the individual, and what's better suited for them long term.
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I didnt say AMD is better than intel, because that would be wrong. AMD CPU's are better at this kind of thing though. plus you get higher value. and it can use more than 4 cores you silly person. im done here, your obviously not listening.
How is it higher value if it's slower and PS can't use more than four cores?

If this was gaming, yea, sure, but PPing is different than gaming setups, and some of us on here actually have post processing experience.
post #45 of 92
Seeing that there is no other option than sandybridge for u at the moment, i would go with the 2500K with 16GB. RAW is usually big. AND detailed. AND a bee-otch to open if you have less than 6 GB. You go with 8GB, you will be able to handle most of your hi-def. 16GB, you will handle ALL of your hi-def and divide by zero. Depends what your parents do on PSCS. 8GB is still an awful lot.
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post #46 of 92
another thought as far as the gpu goes is that other programs (Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight, etc) that some users use every day also support GPU acceleration and from my experience work better with nvidia gpus
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post #47 of 92
Word of advice, don't get Sandy Bridge. Bulldozer's coming (most AMD's are relatively inexpensive so save some cash) and Ivy Bridge is coming too. Sandy Bridge is supposed to be what Ivy Bridge will be. They just added some stuff that aren't too important so it's not like it's the end of the world without them. Otherwise, I'd get the 2500K with 4 gigs.
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post #48 of 92
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I didnt say AMD is better than intel, because that would be wrong. AMD CPU's are better at this kind of thing though. plus you get higher value. and it can use more than 4 cores you silly person. im done here, your obviously not listening.
I'm afraid you're the one not listening here dear sir. I finished reading through the rest of the posts, it's been stated several times that:
a. Whether it has more cores or not does not matter. Photoshop does not use more than 4 anyways.
b. Intel would actually be more suited to photoshopping than any current (Bulldozer out soon!) AMD processor (this info is backed up by benchmarks that have also been linked earlier in this thread).
c. Sandy Bridge is superior to the AMD hexa-cores not because of the cores, but because of the architecture. It could have a million cores if you wanted, Sandy Bridge is processing data completely differently than how previous-gen CPUs have been processing data, and this method is more efficient and faster than any AMD processor no matter the amount of cores.

Final and conclusive point of the matter being: Sandy Bridge is better than an AMD hexa-core for photoshopping.

EDIT: Also, I would suggest you consult the OCN Professionalism Initiative post and work on writing with correct grammar, punctuation, spelling, and capitalization.
Edited by crazyap7 - 2/23/11 at 1:31pm
post #49 of 92
2600k has more threads and since threads are utilized, it would work better and for longer.

Although integrated video would work ok, you would lose the ability to OC with a board that lets you use integrated video. 2600k is 5ghz and beyond! You do not want to lose that extra juice, so go with dedicated video.

8 gigs is enough, just get a board that is upgradeable if more is needed later.

EDIT: I am sure thread utilization will advance to more cores utilized. Might as well get one with 8.
Edited by BWG - 2/23/11 at 1:29pm
 
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I didnt say AMD is better than intel, because that would be wrong. AMD CPU's are better at this kind of thing though. plus you get higher value. and it can use more than 4 cores you silly person. im done here, your obviously not listening.
jy, you're the one who isn't listening.

AMD aren't as good for Graphic Design as you might think, they are budget chips, mostly aimed at gamers, Intel worked with the Quadro division of nVidia, to develop a way to get the chip and card to work faster together.

Why do you think people run Intel in Mac's etc?

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Originally Posted by crazyap7 View Post
I'm afraid you're the one not listening here dear sir. I finished reading through the rest of the posts, it's been stated several times that:
a. Whether it has more cores or not does not matter. Photoshop does not use more than 4 anyways.
b. Intel would actually be more suited to photoshopping than any current (Bulldozer out soon!) AMD processor (this info is backed up by benchmarks that have also been linked earlier in this thread).
c. Sandy Bridge is superior to the AMD hexa-cores not because of the cores, but because of the architecture. It could have a million cores if you wanted, Sandy Bridge is processing data completely differently than how previous-gen CPUs have been processing data, and this method is more efficient and faster than any AMD processor no matter the amount of cores.

Final and conclusive point of the matter being: Sandy Bridge is better than an AMD hexa-core for photoshopping.

EDIT: Also, I would suggest you consult the OCN Professionalism Initiative post and work on writing with correct grammar, punctuation, spelling, and capitalization.
This man talks in more sense than one, although we at BOC have been telling him to sort out his grammar for a while. Sandy Bridge is better than a Hex, but I'd still recommend the 1366.

Sheerly because Hex's aren't likely to go away, and CS6 will probably have Hex optimization. It would save money and also it is a bit of a waste of a SB being overclocked to 5gHz and being used for light Photoshopping and minesweeper.
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