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Poll Results: Which Setup for CS5?

 
  • 22% (17)
    2600k with 16Gb RAM
  • 25% (19)
    2600K with 8Gb RAM
  • 5% (4)
    2500k with 16Gb RAM
  • 47% (36)
    2500k with 8Gb Ram
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post #51 of 92
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Originally Posted by GlockZoR IV View Post
jy, you're the one who isn't listening.

AMD aren't as good for Graphic Design as you might think, they are budget chips, mostly aimed at gamers, Intel worked with the Quadro division of nVidia, to develop a way to get the chip and card to work faster together.

Why do you think people run Intel in Mac's etc?
Or why the majority of professional photographers run i7 rigs.

I like AMD; I think they're great value for the money. That said, if you have the cash and you want the best performance like the OP does, Intel is the way to go.
post #52 of 92
The best procedure in this case is simply to invest in 8GB of memory and if your parents complain that it is insufficient or does not meet their requirements than you can consider the operational plan's for an additional memory kit bringing the total to 16GB. I hardly see how your parents would require 16GB but the best case approach is what I had just listed.
post #53 of 92
Upgrade every 3 years, spend 1k each time.
Better Performance.
 
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post #54 of 92
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Word of advice, don't get Sandy Bridge. Bulldozer's coming (most AMD's are relatively inexpensive so save some cash) and Ivy Bridge is coming too. Sandy Bridge is supposed to be what Ivy Bridge will be. They just added some stuff that aren't too important so it's not like it's the end of the world without them. Otherwise, I'd get the 2500K with 4 gigs.
I think you are overlooking the fact that Sandy Bridge and some Ivy Bridge chips are/will be socket 1155, giving them the option to upgrade to an IB chip later down the road IF NECESSARY. Also while I hope Bulldozer does really well, it is still hard to say for sure how well they will actually perform until we actually see engineering samples in the hands of non-AMD personnel benchmarking and providing legitimate reviews. I'd say pull the trigger on an 2500 or 2600, it will do more than enough for them now and give them headroom for the future.
Edited by selectstriker2 - 2/23/11 at 1:58pm
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post #55 of 92
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So 470 seems like a nice option. What if I stepped down to something like a gts-450?

Also, this will be built when SB boards come back, so if Bulldozer is out at that point, I will reconsider; however, at this moment, SB seems to be the best bet. I'm feeling like the 2500k is a good bet, and then down the road if the 1155 ivy is awesome, can slot it in with minimal cost.

Any input on if an SSD would make a good scratch drive, or is the constant writing going to be too much for it? Seeing how affordable the 2Tb HDDs are, I will get 2-2Tb in Raid1, and then a C300, c400, or Vertex3 in the 128gb range for os and programs. Question is, scratch partition on SSD or on HDDs?
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post #56 of 92
I was thinking about the GTS 450 for you too, but if you're gonna go that route, I would recommend the 460 over a 450.

I'm sure something like this would suffice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127512

I had the 1GB version originally, then upgraded to the 470, but my uses are Premiere primarily. If you're looking to cut back...

Do you really need a 128GB C300 @ $289? Once all your apps are installed, the only thing that's going to be done off the SSD is reading data to load the programs.

You could get the 80 GB x25m for $179, and put that extra $100 towards the 470:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-031-_-Product

If you want 120GB, this is a solid option as well @ $229:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-035-_-Product

Personally, I would be willing to spend more on the video card, than an SSD. Long term, it makes sense, considering your parents don't upgrade very often. I'm sure future versions of Photoshop will be even more GPU accelerated.

Make your scratch drive on a regular HDD, although it would certainly be faster on the SSD, those SSD's would fill up fast. I've had some Photoshop files get as high as 300 - 500MB after effects have been added. Then again, I don't use Photoshop the way everybody else does. That's another story.

It's best to use the SSD for your boot drive, and load your most often used apps on there. I'm using the 80GB X25m now, and I have CS5, Office, and a few other programs on there, and still have 30GB FREE. Plus, Photoshop opens in about 3 seconds for me, compare that to however long it takes now.
Edited by 2010rig - 2/23/11 at 9:12pm
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post #57 of 92
2500k + 8GB RAM + Nvidia GT430 (or GTS 450) + SSD

You get more than enough in the way of processing power and memory, but with the nvidia GPU you get Cuda support, which helps alot in CS5 (coming from personal experience).

You also get the extra 1GB of RAM in the GPU which photoshop will use.

Also, you get almost zero loading times with an SSD (again, from experience)
 
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post #58 of 92
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Ok, so here is what I have put together at the moment:

2500k, 4x4Gb 1600 Ripjaws cas7
C300(C400 or vertex3 if good) 64Gb for OS and programs
2x1.5Tb WD Black caviars, RAID1 for storage and scratch partition
Gtx470

What is a solid m-ATX motherboard for 1155?
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post #59 of 92
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Ok, so here is what I have put together at the moment:

2500k, 4x4Gb 1600 Ripjaws cas7
C300(C400 or vertex3 if good) 64Gb for OS and programs
2x1.5Tb WD Black caviars, RAID1 for storage and scratch partition
Gtx470

What is a solid m-ATX motherboard for 1155?
Given the recall, there hasn't been much in the way of reviews and first hand experiences. However, I personally would stick to Gigabyte or Asus, with USB 3.0, SATA III, and some OCing abilities.
post #60 of 92
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Ok, so here is what I have put together at the moment:

2500k, 4x4Gb 1600 Ripjaws cas7
C300(C400 or vertex3 if good) 64Gb for OS and programs
2x1.5Tb WD Black caviars, RAID1 for storage and scratch partition
Gtx470

What is a solid m-ATX motherboard for 1155?
Sounds good, I'd definitely wait for Vertex 3 (500+MB/s read/write )

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/17/o...-single-drive/
Edited by MetalBeerSolid - 2/23/11 at 9:40pm
 
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