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Poll Results: Which Setup for CS5?

 
  • 22% (17)
    2600k with 16Gb RAM
  • 25% (19)
    2600K with 8Gb RAM
  • 5% (4)
    2500k with 16Gb RAM
  • 47% (36)
    2500k with 8Gb Ram
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post #71 of 92
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Originally Posted by Marc-Olivier Beaudoin View Post
If it's for serious business you should consider an ATI firepro or Nvidia Quadro workstation card ....
Workstation cards like the one's you've mentioned are only needed if the software you are using specifically calls for it. You would know if you needed one because the instruction manual would tell you what card to buy.

AFAIK, AMD does OpenCL better than NVIDIA, and OpenCL is what Photoshop uses. The green team is a latecomer to that game, and chose to spend their engineering resources pursuing CUDA. Photoshop does not use CUDA. Some photoshop plug-ins do use CUDA, but they will specifically tell you they use it. Like with workstation GPUs, if you're not sure you need, then you don't need it.

Personal experience tells me the HD4890 from AMD is more than powerful enough in Photoshop CS4, and benchmarks say the 6850 is almost twice as fast ($175 on newegg).
Edited by willis888 - 2/24/11 at 8:48am
post #72 of 92
My first Photoshop rig was with a CS3 variant of PhotoShop. I used a stock clocked Q6600 and 4 gis with XP. It was a long time before I was able to figure out things that would tax that rig (it is still up). Now it is an i7-930 with 6gb and I wish I could spend more time finding a way to tax it. My point is lower hardware rigs make great learning rigs. But alas I am a "give me big hardware addicted also".

I really believe that people have had great Photoshop experiences with rigs lower speced than my first PhotoShop rig.
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post #73 of 92
i'd go with 1366, I7 950 or better, 12GB tri channel, 120GBssd and gtx460 or so.


i had a I7 920 ocd to 4.2 and runing those same specs with a GTX285, and it was a beat at Photoshop with graphics acceleration support.
    
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post #74 of 92
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Fanboy?

I have provided solid info on why Intel + Nvidia is a BETTER choice.

Let's see a 1090T @ 4.4 needs serious water cooling, while SB 2500K can do that on AIR.

Let's look at a 2500K vs a 1090T clock for clock, not to mention the HIGHER OC potential that a 2500K provides:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=146

For a $30 difference, the choice is clear, GET OVER IT.

The OP also said there's a $3000 max budget, I could easily build an SB rig for well under $1500, and they won't regret it. Perhaps you should read the info in the post, before glancing at it and calling me a fanboy.

My computer was built for CS5 specifically, I've done thorough research on the topic, I don't recommend this based on my likes or brand preference, but rather, based on what's best for the OP, and in this case neither an AMD processor or Graphics card are ideal.

Seriously, take your fanboism somewhere else, and don't turn this into a flame thread.
Choice is clear, BUT clocks don't tell the entire story, remember when AMD FX was running circles around P4 Extremes? at half the clocks?

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post #75 of 92
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Are your parents graphic designers? That's a hefty bit of money into a machine to run photoshop, and unless you're doing a bunch of batch actions on 10+MB raw files, it's way over kill. An AMD quad, 8GB ram, nvidia gt 240, and a 1tb drive would do just fine on any major board. Hell my wife runs it on an AMD X2 6000+ with out a hiccup.
I'd disagree with this. It's already established earlier in the thread that his parent edits RAW pictures and that his dad stitches 360-degree panos together, so it's not a stretch to imagine they know what they're doing and that they would be batch-editing RAWs. Furthermore, the OP stated that he wants a machine that'll last for years, and even if an AMD quad will do fine now, if his parents ever decide to upgrade to a 5D Mk II (or the upcoming Mk III), the computer is going to start hiccuping a bit with those 24MP RAW files.


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Choice is clear, BUT clocks don't tell the entire story, remember when AMD FX was running circles around P4 Extremes? at half the clocks?

*MAJOR INTEL FANBOY FACEPALM*
Don't know what the hell you're QQing about. If anything, his link supports what you just said, that SB is faster clock-for-clock, establishing a difference in performance at the same clock speeds between the two CPUs.
post #76 of 92
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Choice is clear, BUT clocks don't tell the entire story, remember when AMD FX was running circles around P4 Extremes? at half the clocks?

*MAJOR INTEL FANBOY FACEPALM*
What does this have anything to do with this thread...? We're not talking about AMD FX and P4s, we're talking about AMD hexa-cores and Sandy Bridge...what you said is neither constructive nor is it proof of anything.

Also, to answer the questions about GPU-acceleration in CS5, I don't think you can see much of a drastic improvement in Photoshop, but it is definitely awesome when it comes to Premiere.
post #77 of 92
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From what I am reading, and the comments on here, it seems a less powerful graphics card will be the first downgrade if my parents want to lower the price.

I will pitch them the price with a gtx470, and if they want to cut cost, I will downgrade to a gts450 or even further to running the integrated graphics on the 2500k.
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post #78 of 92
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From what I am reading, and the comments on here, it seems a less powerful graphics card will be the first downgrade if my parents want to lower the price.

I will pitch them the price with a gtx470, and if they want to cut cost, I will downgrade to a gts450 or even further to running the integrated graphics on the 2500k.
I wouldn't go as far as integrated graphics, but a cheapo GT240 or even GT220 should do the job even. They cost ~$30 or so used.

(Put that money to a 5D Mk II or a D700 for Canon/Nikon, that should REALLY make them happy if they haven't gotten those cameras yet!)
post #79 of 92
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Originally Posted by r31ncarnat3d View Post
I wouldn't go as far as integrated graphics, but a cheapo GT240 or even GT220 should do the job even. They cost ~$30 or so used.

(Put that money to a 5D Mk II or a D700 for Canon/Nikon, that should REALLY make them happy if they haven't gotten those cameras yet!)
Holy smokes! Those are some nice but very expensive cameras! My dad lamented the loss of his darkroom, until he actually learned how to use photoshop. He quickly decided that digital wasn't so bad, and hasn't been in the dark room since. Amazing really, considering he can hardly navigate his way around Windows XP or do anything else on the computer.

Thanks for all the help guys!
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post #80 of 92
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What does this have anything to do with this thread...? We're not talking about AMD FX and P4s, we're talking about AMD hexa-cores and Sandy Bridge...what you said is neither constructive nor is it proof of anything.

Also, to answer the questions about GPU-acceleration in CS5, I don't think you can see much of a drastic improvement in Photoshop, but it is definitely awesome when it comes to Premiere.
this is sad, comparing previous-gen CPU's to current-gen CPU's, Apples to Apples NOT Apples to Oranges In a app that takes advantage of 6 cores, my old 1090t will be the clear winner
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