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After a lifetime of Intel/Nvidia builds.. I'm ready to jump over to the other side of the pond, and see how green the grass can be.

These phenom's are just horrendously low priced in comparison to the Intel counterparts. I'm looking at either the Phenom X4 or X6 Black Editions.. I'm leaning toward the X4 because it stocks at 3.4GHz, and I have no idea what I would need 6 cores for.. but the X6 is only like 40 bucks more expensive.. which one to get?!

And then it's to the graphics cards.. I have NOOOO idea what to get. ZERO idea. Cause I've only ever used Nvidia, therefore I know nothing related to AMD/ATI. I see the 6870 seems to be a popular, and well priced choice. I don't need the top tier gfx card. Is the 6870 a good choice? Will it be .. "compatible" with Linux at all?

For motherboards, I see this one is popular, and I don't need anything fancy. I'm probably not going to crossfire.. I'm thinking of doing a RAID though, which pretty much all mobo's support nowadays anyway..

So, I'm thinking Black Edition Phenom X4, HD6870 and the above mobo. And 8GB of DDR3 1600 RAM of course.

Do you think my current PSU is enough for that set up? Or should I replace that too. I was thinking about an SSD also, but I can't see how 64GB is going to be effective, unless it's JUST my two OS's on it. But then I would have to install all of my programs on a regular HDD.. which Windows seems to have a hard time with.


Thoughts? Reps for people who are CONSTRUCTIVE with their comments, and not attacking my crossover to the AMD side.
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Damn, traitor! Welcome aboard, the grass here is red
Now, I'd get the x4, cause x6 really doesn't have application in general gaming/home media machines.
The 6870 is powerful and a good card.
More powerful is the 5870, and since you won't CF, if you find it cheap, get the 5870.
Your PSU, I believe, will need an upgrade.
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They're low priced, but right now, you get what you pay for. They're priced where they are for a reason.

That 3.4 ghz Phenom II was priced at over 250 dollars once upon a time.

Having said that, if you're on a budget, AMD can make sense, but only if you're buying really low end. If you're going to spend ~200 dollars on a CPU, I'd say you're crazy for buying AMD instead of Sandy. Once you drop to 100 dollars AMD makes a lot more sense. Hard to compete with the 110 dollar PhII 840 and the 140 dollar 955.

The real question: ...What are you actually going to be using this machine for?
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Unless you are video encoding, or using very multithreaded applications, stick with teh quad core. Im guessing you are looking at the Phenom 970?

Anyway, if you know nvidia, stick nvidia, they do have the best bang for buck cards out across most proce ranges at the moment, and the GTX 560Ti is a nice one to look at. All nvidia cards are AMD compatible and SLI can be made to work on any AMD chipset using a very simple hack.

a 600w powersupply should be more than sufficient for even a 6 core and a top end GPU.

However, i will say hold off on a new build for now, Bulldozer is just around the corner and see how that performs before you commit to one of the older 45nm chips.
     
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I would say go for the six core chip for 40 dollars more, but if you do go for the x4 go with the 955. It is the same chip but at stock 3.2ghz.

go with a better motherboard though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131631R
you will get much better performance out of that board for an x6 chip.
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yeah well amd is he side of the pc world for less ambitious/lss expensive builds, for choices nice nice nice, i am building a pc for a frend with the x4 still pending though but i know for a fact that if you are buying amd you will still be happy with your choice!!! With the gpu wow the 6870 is close to top of the line what are you planning to do with it? I would suggest the 5870 for mild-intense gaming on a regular basis, psu should keep up do problem
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I was thinking about doing the same thing when I was putting together a sandy bridge build and they pulled the plug on that temporarily. I think we are going to buy my wife the following build:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
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XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5

I hope you find what you are looking for !
    
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With the gpu wow the 6870 is close to top of the line what are you planning to do with it? I would suggest the 5870 for mild-intense gaming on a regular basis, psu should keep up do problem
5870 > 6870 w/out CF
And PSU won't keep up, I think. My 60W Ath + 150W GPU + 2x2 RAM are a stretch for 500W. Phenom x4/x6 is 120W, 6870 is 150W too, 5870 is even more, and his RAM is double. 600W will be risky.
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I would say go for the six core chip for 40 dollars more, but if you do go for the x4 go with the 955. It is the same chip but at stock 3.2ghz.

go with a better motherboard though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131631R
you will get much better performance out of that board for an x6 chip.
You're not looking at the other side of the fence.. Once you step up to the 200 dollar hexcores, then your competition is Sandy's i5 2500k. And the 2500k is in another league entirely.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=288
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5870 > 6870 w/out CF
And PSU won't keep up, I think. My 60W Ath + 150W GPU + 2x2 RAM are a stretch for 500W. Phenom x4/x6 is 120W, 6870 is 150W too and his RAM is double. 600W will be risky.
My sig is running off a 650w, and drawing about 550w.

He will be fine.
     
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