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Let's don't get too picky here. The important point is to NOT perform a Low Level Format on an IDE, SATA, or SCSI hard drive. It isn't necessary to go into details, just don't do it.
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Let's don't get too picky here. The important point is to NOT perform a Low Level Format on an IDE, SATA, or SCSI hard drive. It isn't necessary to go into details, just don't do it.
Lol I wasn't being picky, just trying to be precise/get the precise facts. If someone wants to attempt to destroy their HDD it's their problem; I on the other hand just wanted to know which source of information to trust.

And in that respect it seems neither Wikipedia nor PCguide tells the whole story/is 100% correct.

How would you like to be called picky when you say Wikipedia states partly incorrect things, "but that isn't surprising considering how much false and misleading information is on Wikipedia", it has a lot of good things too, right ?

I just wanted to be precise, and it seems both sites aren't, and I'm sure you agree with this statement.
 
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It basically get's close enough. The main reason why you could LLF an MFM or RLL drive was that much of the information about the drives parameters was stored on the controller card for them while it's all stored on the hard drive with IDE, SCSI, and SATA drives. With an older RLL or MFM drive running a LLF again would rewrite the information correctly on the controller card marking the disk surface more precisely. That isn't the case with IDE, SATA, or SCSI drives.
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And I was reffering to the "Full format", present in XP Setup, which writes empty bytes across the entire disk. This, however, is such an intensive task for the HDD that signifficantly shortens its lifespan.
In the end, the result of a Full and a Quick format is identical for the home user.
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Doing a full format instead of a quick format does NOT significantly shorten it's lifespan of a hard disk drive unless one does it once a day every day. The average user would only perform such an action 2 or 3 times a year at most and that would have no noticeable impact on the lifespan of a hard drive. At most you might shorten it's life by .0001% (or the difference between five full years and 4 years, 364 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes, if that much. To be completely honest, one should NEVER perform a quick format of the drive as it does NOT mark any bad sectors, one of the main reasons for performing a format in the first place. Doing a quick format is a waste of time.
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Doing a full format instead of a quick format does NOT significantly shorten it's lifespan of a hard disk drive unless one does it once a day every day. The average user would only perform such an action 2 or 3 times a year at most and that would have no noticeable impact on the lifespan of a hard drive. At most you might shorten it's life by .0001% (or the difference between five full years and 4 years, 364 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes, if that much. To be completely honest, one should NEVER perform a quick format of the drive as it does NOT mark any bad sectors, one of the main reasons for performing a format in the first place. Doing a quick format is a waste of time.
Yeah, well it loads the motor for prolonged period.. But I guess, for really old and beat up HDDs, the sector mapping could be useful. On new HDD- Full format is a waste of time.
The *purpose* of the Format is to Empty, or Erase the HDD, not to map bad sectors. That comes as bonus.
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post #27 of 40
The platters spin at the same rate any time the hard drive is energized so it places no additional stress on the motor. It does place a small additional stress on the actuator motor and the heads, but nothing substantial enough to cause any long term degradation unless the drive is kept in an improperly ventilated area and allowed to overheat. But in that case normal usage would wear it out just as quickly.

Erasing isn't the main purpose. At best it's a secondary result. You format a hard drive to prepare the platter surface to accept the data without errors. If you don't perform a full format to re-map any sector errors you haven't properly prepared the surface. Even brand new drives need to have this done as damage can and does happen during shipping.

You really need to brush up on your hard drive and format technical information.
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Back in the day you would really only LLF if you wanted to change cluster size for drive optimization... these days, it's completely unnecessary...

And... lol @ RLL and MFM drives. Also lol @ having to spend sometimes hours configuring irq's, optimizing TSR loading orders in high memory... Building a system was so much effort back then.
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Interested In whether the new psu solved the issues you were having

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Interested In whether the new psu solved the issues you were having

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Yes, it did. I finished the disk check, booted fine into Windows, didn't even need to reinstall.
Ran several beches and so on, all looks stable
Crysis and LiveMesh don't crash anymore.
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