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Previously I ran my onbaord AC'97 to a Fiio E5 to JVC RX-900. I used the E5 to get rid of the residual noise in my system so that when nothing was playing I didn't hear the buzz or static in my head.

I chose the DG because it supported Dolby Headphone, had a built in amp(albeit not a fancy one), and the price ($30 @ Newegg). Very impressed with it so far. The directionality is much improved with the DH effects turned on. In CSS I can pinpoint direction and it "feels" like height as well but that may be placebo.

Music listening is much improved from the onboard and in addition I don't have the hiss or buzzing when nothing is playing even without using the E5. Would heartily recommend these to anyone looking for a cheap solution that is better than onboard. I think the inclusion of Dolby Headphone makes it an almost must have pickup for the pricepoint. Keep in mind the PCI requirement and the outputs on the back if that is important. I do wish it supported 1/4" plugs natively.

Also, for those who care, it only supports the following bitrates natively: 44.1K/48K/96KHz @ 16/24bit for all channels. Not a problem for me, but obviously this is not an extreme audiophile card. I am very happy with it, my FLACs sound better now than before, no room for complaint.
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Glad you've got a decent card for your cans.
Try upgrade to Xonar Essence STX or ST when time is right, you'll have more surprise on the improvements.
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Yup, it's a great little card.
 
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Previously I ran my onbaord AC'97 to a Fiio E5 to JVC RX-900. I used the E5 to get rid of the residual noise in my system so that when nothing was playing I didn't hear the buzz or static in my head.

I chose the DG because it supported Dolby Headphone, had a built in amp(albeit not a fancy one), and the price ($30 @ Newegg). Very impressed with it so far. The directionality is much improved with the DH effects turned on. In CSS I can pinpoint direction and it "feels" like height as well but that may be placebo.

Music listening is much improved from the onboard and in addition I don't have the hiss or buzzing when nothing is playing even without using the E5. Would heartily recommend these to anyone looking for a cheap solution that is better than onboard. I think the inclusion of Dolby Headphone makes it an almost must have pickup for the pricepoint. Keep in mind the PCI requirement and the outputs on the back if that is important. I do wish it supported 1/4" plugs natively.

Also, for those who care, it only supports the following bitrates natively: 44.1K/48K/96KHz @ 16/24bit for all channels. Not a problem for me, but obviously this is not an extreme audiophile card. I am very happy with it, my FLACs sound better now than before, no room for complaint.
While I agree that it's great for music listening, game playing is a whole different story on it unfortunately.
    
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Glad you've got a decent card for your cans.
Try upgrade to Xonar Essence STX or ST when time is right, you'll have more surprise on the improvements.
Hopefully yes. Right now the budget is aimed at Crossfire for Skyrim and BF3.

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While I agree that it's great for music listening, game playing is a whole different story on it unfortunately.
Why do you feel that? I think it's excellent for gaming.
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I bought a DG yesterday and wasn't impressed. I returned it today. I don't use those gimmicky EQ settings, so the only tangible difference was that it cleaned up distortion at higher volumes. It does nothing for listening fatigue tho, so it's pointless to even use at those high volumes.

I'll save up to go straight for the ST(X)
Edited by cuad - 2/24/11 at 4:47pm
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I like my DG quiet a bit!
Games like BC2 feel a little bit more alive, few extra bullet whizzes and thumps add quiet a bit to the experience. Music seems clearear either through my speakers or headphones (Sennheiser HD280 Pro).
For $30 I feel like it's worth the upgrade.
Are full blown Asus cards that much better for 3x/4x the price?
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Originally Posted by Parish_Rane View Post
Also, for those who care, it only supports the following bitrates natively: 44.1K/48K/96KHz @ 16/24bit for all channels. Not a problem for me, but obviously this is not an extreme audiophile card.
????

You only really need 96KHz really. Oversampling to 96KHz can be benefitual and can be good but 192KHz introduces a lot of problems.

From Dan Lavry's paper 'Sampling Theory for digital audio'

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There is an inescapable tradeoff between faster sampling on one hand and a loss of accuracy, increased data size and much additional processing requirement on the other hand.

AD converter designers can not generate 20 bits at MHz speeds, yet they often utilize a circuityielding a few bits at MHz speeds as a step towards making many bits at lower speeds.

The compromise between speed and accuracy is a permanent engineering and scientific reality.

Sampling audio signals at 192KHz is about 3 times faster than the optimal rate.
It compromises the accuracy which ends up as audio distortions.

While there is no up side to operation at excessive speeds, there are further disadvantages:
1. The increased speed causes larger amount of data (impacting data storage and data transmission speed requirements).
2. Operating at 192KHz causes a very significant increase in the required processing power, resulting in very costly gear and/or further compromise in audio quality.

The optimal sample rate should be largely based on the required signal bandwidth. Audio industry salesman have been promoting faster than optimal rates. The promotion of such ideas is based on the fallacy that faster rates yield more accuracy and/or more detail. Whether motivated by profit or ignorance, the promoters, leading the industry in the wrong direction, are
stating the opposite of what is true.
RMAA tests back this up as well.
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Originally Posted by Parish_Rane View Post
Hopefully yes. Right now the budget is aimed at Crossfire for Skyrim and BF3.



Why do you feel that? I think it's excellent for gaming.
See my other posts. In short, it hogs resources and has terrible drivers.
    
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