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The basic building block of the Bulldozer core is a 213 million transistor unit which features 2 MB of L2 cache. This block contains the fetch and decode unit, two integer execution units, a shared 2 x 128 bit floating point/SIMD unit, L1 data and instruction caches, and a large shared L2 unit. All of this is manufactured on GLOBALFOUNDRIES’ 32nm, 11 metal layer SOI process. This entire unit, plus 2 MB of L2 cache, is contained in approximately 30.9 mm squared of die space.
I want to see a side by side comparison chart with the Phenoms. I would see the differences better.
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I've read the article and it says that theoretically intel should still be better in light single threaded applications at the same clocks. Meaning amd should release higher clocked CPU at the same price range to counteract that. What seems to be really impressive from my point of view is the power saving tech.

For me: if AMD can get the same performance/price range + better power saving and favorably CHEAPER chipsets then it would be a one way trip for me to red side.

I looking forward to making my first system, but I'm prioritizing power consumption since the electric bill is pretty high as it is for me living on my own. I was aiming at SB but the sata fiasco really set me back a lot.
No to bash the thread, but seriously, what application uses single threads these days? Every game I play, even minecraft, uses more than a single thread. If that's all Intel might have over AMD, that's pretty crappy and not really worth bragging over.
     
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Thanks for pointing that out Blademaster, I'll be happy to participate on a different thread, though I only have a single 470.

The tests on the screenshots were on the exact same card at same clocks, and the poster is the one who noticed the bottleneck not only in Vantage, but in other areas too, which is why he switched to a 2500K and was able to compare between the 2 platforms.

Ever since he made the switch and posted his results, he's been called an Intel fanboy, and an AMD hater, eventhough he's always preferred AMD.

Also, how come no one mentioned this guy's post:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...13&postcount=8

He's talking about the exact same thing, and he also made the switch.

I'm not sure how some people blamed Nvidia drivers, do Nvidia drivers prefer Intel processors? But anyway...

What people are not understanding is that my whole point was that "IF" there's a possible bottleneck with single card set ups, I was wondering if there was a bottleneck seen with the 3x 6970's, many mentioned here that there IS a bottleneck with 3 cards.

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As of 8 hours ago I made a comment saying I would be more interested in Bulldozer and the 990FX motherboards if it had SLI support.

I retract my statement because as of this afternoon I saw a friend of mine build an AMD rig with 1100T and Tri-Fire 6970's and I was blown away how much it cost him and how well it performed.

So... COME ON BULLDOZER! SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT!
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Are all 3 cards seeing 100% GPU useage?
I'm going to watch what I say around OCN, people get so hostile when you mention the performance difference between both camps.

In other threads I've shared the reasons why I chose an Intel processor with an Nvidia card for my video editing needs, and let's just say, it hasn't gone over well. I posted plenty of evidence to support why they perform better in a CS5 environment, and why they are better suited for my needs as I'm not a gamer.

Now, can we get back to talking about Bulldozer, I did say I didn't want to get off topic, as I knew this is what would happen.

Here are some more BD news to talk about:
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/2/24/amd...details-isscc/

I'm heading out for now, but hopefully we can put that discussion to rest.
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I'm excited to see what Bulldozer has in store for us. I honestly want to build another AMD again but like the article was saying intel was ahead(not in a biased way just stating it) for some years, last AMD I had was a 939 so im hoping Bulldozer is a big shiny monster of a proc.
     
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so it's not as fast as the new core i Processors?
it uses more power.
and it has a stupidly big die.

very disappointed in AMD
    
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For all those people complaining about the lack of benchmarks, you won't get any. Nobody releases benches this early, so quit your whining and wait patiently like everyone else.
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For all those people complaining about the lack of benchmarks, you won't get any. Nobody releases benches this early, so quit your whining and wait patiently like everyone else.
Benches aside, even a leaked line up would be more than enough.
    
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I would rather people take a less optimistic view of Q2. Q2 = between April and June (assuming it's talking about a calendar year and not a fiscal year which may or may not be the same), not April 1

Also, I'm primarily interested in BD's single threaded performance. I'm curious to see how it stacks up against SB CPUs.
    
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is amd always this secretive?
You ask a very imperative question there!

I think the better question is...

WHY IS AMD BEING SO SECRETIVE?

Do they have the bomb and don't want Intel to know anything?

Or is it that they got something mediocre which will make investors flee?

Or what?

Why do you think AMD is being so super hush hush about Bulldozer?
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Today I updated the new coreTemp program and looked at the changed revision. Very interesting reading. They were making it read 16 and 18 cores. Is there a Double Bulldozer Motherboard out there with my name on it. Possible..
    
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