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post #11 of 40
I think you're aiming too high if you want it to beat Ivy Bridge.

However, I really hope AMD will still deliver best performance per dollar and nice OC capabilities.
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The 8-core model will probably be able to beat or at least perform as good as the i7-9**x processors. They will probably beat them because of their 2 core advantage and AMD's hyperthreading. The 6 core model (if they make one) may also be able to perform the same as the 9**x processors because of it's new multi-threading tech. We still don't know the power of each core for AMD's new cpu's. They will probably go from 4 core least to 8 core max so the x4 will be the lowest. It'll probably perform on par with the 4 core i3 that's coming with Ivy Bridge I think...I heard there was going to be a 4 core i3.
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post #13 of 40
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Originally Posted by pietro sk View Post
lga2011 is quad channel, how can dual channel compete ?
anyway, that socket is server-like, and it will fight with G34(quad ch. also)

look at nehalem (westmere) EX chip pricing... up to 4000€ per one piece !
i believe/hope amd will not ask more than 1500€ for top part..
Problem though is that since LGA2011 is for desktop, the processors won't have any more than 8 cores yet. It's still 2011. 16 core should be coming next year to desktop. Right now, buyable server processors only reach up to 12 cores.
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Because it's not all about memory bandwidth....
lets compare desktop sockets together, to be fair...

lga2011 is not aimed (never was) for desktops - and prices will be pretty high here
expect prices above 800€
    
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I'm thinking more like it trading blows with the i7-990x
I hope so too,after all the 990x is'nt a major overhaul over the 980x really.I am betting it'll be overclocked performance where Bulldozer shines,providing AMD dont go the Intel route for multiplier only.Sandy Bridge is pretty restricted by the lack of fsb tweaking,yeah its one amazing cpu,but imagine the performance you could get with changing fsb,as anyone knows this way provides better overall performance.

I predict overclocks of 5+ghz,and a overclocked performance maybe even pushing the 990x aside in certain areas.
post #16 of 40
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I think you're aiming too high if you want it to beat Ivy Bridge.

However, I really hope AMD will still deliver best performance per dollar and nice OC capabilities.
I agree,after all Bulldozer is'nt meant to compete in that area.32nm v's 22nm is'nt a fair comparison,Bulldozer 2nd generation will take care of the Ivy Bridge.
post #17 of 40
I say at best it's on par with the 990x with performance...but at a much better price. At its worst, on par with the 2600 or 2600k performance but again if its $100 lower in price everyone wins.

I am honestly hoping for some crazy out of the box frequencies and a lot of headroom for overclocking, 5ghz+ would be nice.
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post #18 of 40
You need to be far more specific, Bulldozer is an architecture. The first CPU to be released using this design is supposed to be a Zambezi oct-core chip. I think that it will be slightly better than the i7-2600.
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post #19 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by pietro sk View Post
lets compare desktop sockets together, to be fair...

lga2011 is not aimed (never was) for desktops - and prices will be pretty high here
expect prices above 800€
2011 is meant for server and enthusiasts, just because AMD forgot about the latter doesn't mean Intel did too



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Originally Posted by crossy82 View Post
I hope so too,after all the 990x is'nt a major overhaul over the 980x really.I am betting it'll be overclocked performance where Bulldozer shines,providing AMD dont go the Intel route for multiplier only.Sandy Bridge is pretty restricted by the lack of fsb tweaking,yeah its one amazing cpu,but imagine the performance you could get with changing fsb,as anyone knows this way provides better overall performance.

I predict overclocks of 5+ghz,and a overclocked performance maybe even pushing the 990x aside in certain areas.


Yah I having a x57 multi and a chip that can reach 5+ on air, what a let down.

FSB wouldn't do anything for SB. The NB is tied directly to the core clocks, a 5GHz SB chip has much better memory (and cache) speeds/bandwidth than a 4GHz one.
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@ BallaTheFeared
From what i read ivy is basically a die-shrink of sb, but with unlocked fsb. Intel free-ed the fsb from the sata/pci-e controller. So imagine ur chip at 5ghz with 100fsb and ivy at 5ghz with 200fsb.

Edit: of course with some other tweaks like more pci lanes .
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