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The Full Bench of the Federal Court in Australia has just dismissed the movie industry’s appeal against last year’s judgment which found that ISP iiNet did not authorize the copyright infringements of its file-sharing customers.

Represented by anti-piracy group AFACT, nearly three dozen Hollywood and local studios took iiNet to court in 2008. In a 2009 trial the ISP was accused of doing nothing to stop its customers downloading films and TV shows but in February 2010 the Federal Court decided that iiNet was not responsible for their activities. An appeal was heard later that year and today the decision was handed down.

Justice Emmett said that the Court continued to agree that the rights of the movie companies had been infringed but could not find in their favor
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So hang on. The copyright holders were trying to sue the ISP?

Unless the ISP had advertised their services as "all you can eat illegal movie and music downloads!" then they had no case anyway and why the hell did it take 2 years to find this?

Court should have thrown it out and disallowed them from appealing.

Copyright holders need to go after the people MAKING the leaks, not the people using them. I.E. If I download a movie, why are they coming for me? Why not find the person who uploaded it? They're the one doing the damage.
    
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So hang on. The copyright holders were trying to sue the ISP?

Unless the ISP had advertised their services as "all you can eat illegal movie and music downloads!" then they had no case anyway and why the hell did it take 2 years to find this?

Court should have thrown it out and disallowed them from appealing.

Copyright holders need to go after the people MAKING the leaks, not the people using them. I.E. If I download a movie, why are they coming for me? Why not find the person who uploaded it? They're the one doing the damage.
One might argue that the uploaders are the only ones buying the content in the first place.
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So hang on. The copyright holders were trying to sue the ISP?

Unless the ISP had advertised their services as "all you can eat illegal movie and music downloads!" then they had no case anyway and why the hell did it take 2 years to find this?
Probably backed up in line because of all the different sites that have been targeted lately, plus with Sony cutting in line to get GeoHotz

My thoughts have always remained the same, make a product worth buying
    
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One might argue that the uploaders are the only ones buying the content in the first place.
The whole prospect of a leak is that it is leaked, like, early. These are the people that work within the studios or distribution centres. Cam copies from cinemas are people who've paid to see the movie, sure. But in no way can it be argued that the uploaders are their best customers. The people downloading them on Rapidshare and Megaupload are their best customers. The only problem is the rights holders are yet to both get this idea and capitalise on it.

People are willing to pay $10pm to use Megaupload, these same people would be willing to pay the same to legitimise their actions, yet, rights holders have yet to introduce a service to compete with the piracy ones. Probably because they don't think they should compete and should be able to enforce their outdated distribution methods onto people.

So, instead, they get the US government to shutdown websites (without rights, I may add. ICANN is not the US Govt's toy)

Sure, piracy does some form of damage to the industry but this overly dragged out fight for the last 10-15 years against pirates has done the most damage.
    
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If it wasn't for piracy, so many people would lose their jobs.
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If it wasn't for piracy, so many people would lose their jobs.
so because of piracy people have jobs?? wut??
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so because of piracy people have jobs?? wut??
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but the ISPs are responsible for piracy.

isn't it obvious?
    
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if an ISP regulates content on it's wires then yes, it is the ISP's fault for not regulating it properly. Otherwise it's entirely on the user.

That's how Apple wound up in a lawsuit over some of the apps in the app store. Even though apple didn't do anything but put an approved sticker on it, it is still responsible for regulating it.
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