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Excellent looking trailer. But a few comments:

1) Looks just like Oblivion... great.
2) Same crappy animations too (not that they looks crappy in the trailer, but everything looks so much like Oblivion, that this will probably end up being the case.
3) If this game has scaled loot tables again, then it's going to blow as hard as Oblivion did.

This can all of course be pardoned if Bethesda gives us some good combat; but then again... it is Bethesda, and as they've proven in the past, combat is not something they have ever figured out how to do.
Are you kidding? I think you need to get your eyes checked because this game looks nothing like oblivion. Everything looks redone and beefed up graphically. There are lots of different landscapes and monsters too that I never saw in oblivion, and some of the old monsters have been totally redone with their looks. And this isn't just a trailer, there was plenty of in-game footage in there, mixed with "trailer" footage.

As far as combat goes, it looks like they kept the first person/third person style, which I personally liked. But they have changed a few aspects of it and made it more realistic and lifelike. Just because you don't like the combat doesn't mean others don't prefer it.
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Are you kidding? I think you need to get your eyes checked because this game looks nothing like oblivion. Everything looks redone and beefed up graphically. There are lots of different landscapes and monsters too that I never saw in oblivion, and some of the old monsters have been totally redone with their looks. And this isn't just a trailer, there was plenty of in-game footage in there, mixed with "trailer" footage.

As far as combat goes, it looks like they kept the first person/third person style, which I personally liked. But they have changed a few aspects of it and made it more realistic and lifelike. Just because you don't like the combat doesn't mean others don't prefer it.
It has some similarities though in terms of visuals. Character Models don't look that new, just a little cleaner which is fine for a regular sequel, BUT THIS IS A NEW ENGINE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Normally when you jump from one engine to the next there are significant changes in EVERYTHING. The landscapes look fantastic however and they even added some extra goodies like Interactive Foliage (look around 1:29 to 1:31 and you will seem the grass interacts according to his movement, that is it moves..) and the textures look well bigger and sharper.
    
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It has some similarities though in terms of visuals. Character Models don't look that new, just a little cleaner which is fine for a regular sequel, BUT THIS IS A NEW ENGINE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Normally when you jump from one engine to the next there are significant changes in EVERYTHING. The landscapes look fantastic however and they even added some extra goodies like Interactive Foliage (look around 1:29 to 1:31 and you will seem the grass interacts according to his movement, that is it moves..) and the textures look well bigger and sharper.
I think the npc's look fantastic compared to oblivion, and the monsters, to me at least, do not look like re-hashed material.
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I'm not an RPG guy and I thought that was the most impressive RPG trailer I've ever seen.
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Nice..... This looks to be a good year for games, some big ones dropping (well hopefully, as some are stated to release near the end of the year).

I loved Morrowind and poured a ton of time into that game. Oblivion was just meh to me though. All the challenge and quirks of MW were just not in OB. Sure OB looked good, but MW was just so captivating, so much space to explore, and you wanted to explore it all. Also OB just seemed like it was made for consoles. The menu system was terrible for OB, not that MW was perfect, but I liked the way it was displayed much better. I know OB has a huge mod scene and it is probably possible to make it playable for me, but that would take some time to find the right mods, experiment, etc.

Even though I heard Skyrim is consolidating more skills and magics, it could still pull it off. Give me another captivating world like Morrowind, graphics come second to the gameplay, but we can expect those to be nice.
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@.@

that looks......... epic.
    
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I started 3 new games over a period of several years, and tried about 40 different mods to tweak the game so that it was playable. I completely quit each time while only about 25% through the main plot. The game sucked.
Now you see - mods can be what breaks a game alot. I had a similar problem with STALKER where I played WAY too much with mods instead of the game itself and I never enjoyed it until I told myself to stop and just play the damn game lol
Similar thing with Fallout 3 but I never got into Fallout period.
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Now you see - mods can be what breaks a game alot. I had a similar problem with STALKER where I played WAY too much with mods instead of the game itself and I never enjoyed it until I told myself to stop and just play the damn game lol
Similar thing with Fallout 3 but I never got into Fallout period.
What are you talking about? if he can't play the game modded or unmodded, it means the game sucked (for him).
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What are you talking about? if he can't play the game modded or unmodded, it means the game sucked (for him).
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Im saying that if you play too much with mods in a game - like for example the 40 mods he claims to have put into the game to make it "playable" - that in itself can be whats making the game suck for him.

I put so many mods in STALKER when I first got it, that the game simply wasnt STALKER anymore and I lost all focus on the game itself. I couldn't get into the game until I reduced the number of mods I had and played close to vanilla. That's all I'm saying, no need for the "what are you talking about?" Pretty clear what I'm saying. You can get carried away with mods sometimes, and that might very well be his case. Just advice.
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Im saying that if you play too much with mods in a game - like for example the 40 mods he claims to have put into the game to make it "playable" - that in itself can be whats making the game suck for him.

I put so many mods in STALKER when I first got it, that the game simply wasnt STALKER anymore and I lost all focus on the game itself. I couldn't get into the game until I reduced the number of mods I had and played close to vanilla. That's all I'm saying, no need for the "what are you talking about?" Pretty clear what I'm saying. You can get carried away with mods sometimes, and that might very well be his case. Just advice.
If he's anything like me and many other Morrowind fans, then what he meant is that he tried Oblivion vanilla and couldn't play it. Then tried again and again with a bunch of mods but still couldn't get into it. Morrowind ruined Oblivion for us, if you will.

If not, then sure.
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