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post #11 of 23
[H] reviews are the best. You haters just don't understand their testing methodology.

They totally account for the different types of AA between NV and AMD cards ... all you gotta do is read the explanations.

For those of you who don't understand the complicated part at the top of each page, just check the apples/apples at the bottom. They use 4xAA which is the same on both brand's cards.
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Another hater here. I dislike their methodology.
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[H]'s tests are very simple to grasp if you understand its purpose.

Test 1: What are the maximum eye candy settings can you set the card to for playable frame rates? This is not a test of frame rate but a test of image quality.

Test 2: Both cards have the same settings. Faster frame rates are better.

Not so hard, is it?
post #14 of 23
Hard to grasp HD 6870 so close to HD 6950 considering its 1120SP vs 1400SP. Well at least in a game where you need CF or SLI HD 6950 does better but AMD should release better drivers for HD 69XX cause they got room for improvement.
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post #15 of 23
I was hoping for 1080p/1200p results... that's where the majority of gamers are playing... I'm planning on grabbing another TFII card soon, it would've been nice to see what I could be expecting.
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i really like [H] reviews
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post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by Domino View Post
That's the thing. It isn't apples to apples. 16x CSAA does not match 12x MOAA. It likely matches ~8x MOAA. It gives a false impression of the visual quality and performance between the cards. Furthermore, not a single review site should use AA on an AMD card anymore. MOAA is just better, with significantly better performance for equivalent visual quality.

When reviewing the performance of the cards you put them in their best possible settings. When comparing cards, you place them in the exact same visual presentation. If 4x MOAA looks just as good as the standard 8x AA, then put the AMD card at those settings. :\\

/rant.
but then wouldnt the other card be processing more of a workload? theoretically, they could both use this enhancement, but since it isnt applied, they wouldnt be calculating the same thing. if one is more effective at reproducing a similar image, then im all for it, but it dosent seem fair if only one has that technology, or rather, its more of a design enhancement, and shuoldnt be misconstrued
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Originally Posted by EfemaN View Post
I was hoping for 1080p/1200p results... that's where the majority of gamers are playing... I'm planning on grabbing another TFII card soon, it would've been nice to see what I could be expecting.
Actually the majority of gamers play in the 1400x900 to 1680x1050 range, at least those that play steam games anyway.
post #19 of 23
I don't how anyone can find his subjective review relevant. Reviews that use different AA/resolutions/etc are retarded. Just use the same settings on both cards(including bumping ATI default AF up to medium level due to their cheating) and run the benchmarks.

At least they finally started OCing, but they didn't even run any benchmarks with OCs. Reference comparisons are useless.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post
I don't how anyone can find his subjective review relevant. Reviews that use different AA/resolutions/etc are retarded. Just use the same settings on both cards(including bumping ATI default AF up to medium level due to their cheating) and run the benchmarks.
What the hell is this if it isn't using the same AA/resolutions/etc?

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?im...dfM180X2wuZ2lm
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