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What the hell is this if it isn't using the same AA/resolutions/etc?

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?im...dfM180X2wuZ2lm
Exactly. They do both on [H] ... maximum playable settings, and apples-to-apples. And they provided LOTS of explanation. That's why their reviews are so cool.

There's a million other sites out there if all you wanna see is apples to apples. I think 'max playable settings' is a very important and 'telling' thing to measure, and I think they basically do it the only way that it's possible to do it.

Although their standards in this regard are a bit low for my taste ... I'd like to see them use a higher 'lowest min allowable' than they do. 30fps to me is not 'playable' except in Crysis where for some reason it feels pretty smooth.
    
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same card has been reviewed by dozens of other sites. Of course you will come across you few biased ones like hardOCP and cannuks
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"don't how anyone can find his subjective review relevant. Reviews that use different AA/resolutions/etc are retarded. Just use the same settings on both cards(including bumping ATI default AF up to medium level due to their cheating) and run the benchmarks. "

The Idea is not to compare the frames per second that the card gets at those settings. What the review is telling you is that, using this particular card, these were the highest settings we were able to use, and still acheive acceptable performance. Apples to Apples or canned benchmarks are a quantitative measure. They show you the quantity of frames a range of cards can render in a given amount of time with the same workload.

Real world testing like what hardocp does is a qualitative measure. They show you the image quality you can expect to get out of a card and still achieve playable framerates.

As a reviewer,I could run benchmarks I could tell you that at the same settings in this benchmark, card a averages 20 fps, and card b averages 25 fps. This is useful to a certain extent as a guide to the cards capabilities.

Or I could play a whole game with each card. After doing this I could tell you that the highest settings I could play the game at comfortably with card A were:1920x1080,16xaf 4xaa,maximum in game settings, but in order to run the game comfortably with card b I was forced to reduce the AA and some of the in game settings to get what I found to be a playable frame rate.

I think the latter option is much more useful as a buying guide. The tv show Top Gear is an excellent example of this. When they review a car, they get their racing driver to see how fast it can go around their race track(anolagous to a canned benchmark). But they dont recommend the cars to buy based on these numbers.

They drive the car around for a day so they can see how it performs in the real world, what its gear shift is like etc, and recommend the car to you based on their experience with it. That is what real world testing is all about and that is what Hardocp does with their video cards
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