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Yeah, I don't really notice the color differences. My main concern is whether or not the 1080p will look that much better than the 1680x1050. Enough to justify the cost.
Trust me on this one, the difference between gaming on a 22" and a 24" is huge. I highly regret ever buying my 2 22" monitors. It's not the resolution that bothers me, but more the fact that gaming on my 24" monitors is such a better experience due to the screen size. If I could do it all over again, I would've purchased 4 24" monitors. The only reason I don't upgrade them now is that I'm not the one that uses the 22" monitors. They're used on the Lan for friends. Trust me, if you can sell your 22" and upgrade to 24", then do it.
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The HP ZR24W (IPS, 24") was $400 :/
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The HP ZR24W (IPS, 24") was $400 :/
Yeah, IPS isn't worth it for me. It's almost exclusively gonna be used for gaming.
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You may be surprised by how well an IPS games. Like I mentioned before, I had an 8ms rated Acer 23" (H233Hbmid), and it showed more ghosting and worse color than a 14ms rated Viewsonic 23" IPS. Gaming, frankly, is marketing fluff in order to increase prices. Yep, it's my opinion. Marketing anything with a specific moniker is going to do that. Premium, gaming, or photo biased monitors are all going to be expensive.

This pours over into other things, such as audio cards. The Xfi...excellent card (I own one), and two models are supposedly marked specifically for gaming (fatality versions PCI and PCI-E). That branding jumps the price up a little. For what it's worth, Creative owns EMU, who makes recording audio cards that far surpass the Xfi in power and performance (somewhat due to drivers). Not marketed for gaming, but would work well, due to low latency, and greater processing performance. They run around the same price...but not marketed as such.

I highly recommend evaluating a monitor on how YOU see it, and not succumbing to tossing an option out the window because "it's gonna be used for gaming." I use a clicky mechanical keyboard that's meant for typing, not for gaming, but I find it suits my style more than a typical membrane keyboard. Try going to a brick and mortar store, looking at the various models, from various angles, and see what they can actually do. See how well they adjust, and consider how tall they are, which may affect how you view them, and your comfort level. The HP listed above is a very good monitor, with a fully adjustable base. After having used both basic and adjustable bases, I will not go with the former.

I also suggest all this due to the price. I plopped nearly $600 for my two monitors, and it was a decision I spent many months considering (just shy of a year total). Finally I decided, and am happy. I read reviews, saw the actual models, and did not consider simple word-of-mouth experience (that lead me to getting the Acer I was so displeased with). Check out Maximum PC's LCD tech shattered article. It explains a whole lot about current monitors.

Also, if you really, really want the best gaming experience, with plenty of hz, you can always look up a Sony FW900, which is a 24" 1080p CRT that should take care of you, but they are big. IMO, no LCD has dethroned the CRT for color accuracy or gaming performance (no pixel lag). Plasma is closest, but doesn't come in small monitors, and can have burn in problems if a static image is left for several hours.

Just keep thinking and looking. Buy online, but look in store
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You may be surprised by how well an IPS games. Like I mentioned before, I had an 8ms rated Acer 23" (H233Hbmid), and it showed more ghosting and worse color than a 14ms rated Viewsonic 23" IPS. Gaming, frankly, is marketing fluff in order to increase prices. Yep, it's my opinion. Marketing anything with a specific moniker is going to do that. Premium, gaming, or photo biased monitors are all going to be expensive.

This pours over into other things, such as audio cards. The Xfi...excellent card (I own one), and two models are supposedly marked specifically for gaming (fatality versions PCI and PCI-E). That branding jumps the price up a little. For what it's worth, Creative owns EMU, who makes recording audio cards that far surpass the Xfi in power and performance (somewhat due to drivers). Not marketed for gaming, but would work well, due to low latency, and greater processing performance. They run around the same price...but not marketed as such.

I highly recommend evaluating a monitor on how YOU see it, and not succumbing to tossing an option out the window because "it's gonna be used for gaming." I use a clicky mechanical keyboard that's meant for typing, not for gaming, but I find it suits my style more than a typical membrane keyboard. Try going to a brick and mortar store, looking at the various models, from various angles, and see what they can actually do. See how well they adjust, and consider how tall they are, which may affect how you view them, and your comfort level. The HP listed above is a very good monitor, with a fully adjustable base. After having used both basic and adjustable bases, I will not go with the former.

I also suggest all this due to the price. I plopped nearly $600 for my two monitors, and it was a decision I spent many months considering (just shy of a year total). Finally I decided, and am happy. I read reviews, saw the actual models, and did not consider simple word-of-mouth experience (that lead me to getting the Acer I was so displeased with). Check out Maximum PC's LCD tech shattered article. It explains a whole lot about current monitors.

Also, if you really, really want the best gaming experience, with plenty of hz, you can always look up a Sony FW900, which is a 24" 1080p CRT that should take care of you, but they are big. IMO, no LCD has dethroned the CRT for color accuracy or gaming performance (no pixel lag). Plasma is closest, but doesn't come in small monitors, and can have burn in problems if a static image is left for several hours.

Just keep thinking and looking. Buy online, but look in store
I already ordered the Asus 3d monitor. My biggest issue was screen tearing in Source games. This will solve all of my tearing problems. Plus, I wanted the 3d.
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I went for the dell u2410 if ur not gaming 24/7 or playing games like cs/quake3 it is much better!
I would never buy a Dell anything. They have zero service facilities, and if your monitor breaks down once it's out of warranty they will just try and sell you a new one.

I've had so many people in my shop with Dell monitors that cost them a small fortune when they purchased them and Dell wouldn't help them at all.

Lucky for them I was able to service them at a reasonable cost. I've also had people come in with Dell computers with weird custom cases and lucky for them I was able to repair the mb because if I couldn't, a standard board would not fit in the case and they would have had to replace the entire computer.

I would never recommend Dell for anything, and especially not to an enthusiast.
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You may be surprised by how well an IPS games. Like I mentioned before, I had an 8ms rated Acer 23" (H233Hbmid), and it showed more ghosting and worse color than a 14ms rated Viewsonic 23" IPS. Gaming, frankly, is marketing fluff in order to increase prices. Yep, it's my opinion. Marketing anything with a specific moniker is going to do that. Premium, gaming, or photo biased monitors are all going to be expensive.

This pours over into other things, such as audio cards. The Xfi...excellent card (I own one), and two models are supposedly marked specifically for gaming (fatality versions PCI and PCI-E). That branding jumps the price up a little. For what it's worth, Creative owns EMU, who makes recording audio cards that far surpass the Xfi in power and performance (somewhat due to drivers). Not marketed for gaming, but would work well, due to low latency, and greater processing performance. They run around the same price...but not marketed as such.

I highly recommend evaluating a monitor on how YOU see it, and not succumbing to tossing an option out the window because "it's gonna be used for gaming." I use a clicky mechanical keyboard that's meant for typing, not for gaming, but I find it suits my style more than a typical membrane keyboard. Try going to a brick and mortar store, looking at the various models, from various angles, and see what they can actually do. See how well they adjust, and consider how tall they are, which may affect how you view them, and your comfort level. The HP listed above is a very good monitor, with a fully adjustable base. After having used both basic and adjustable bases, I will not go with the former.

I also suggest all this due to the price. I plopped nearly $600 for my two monitors, and it was a decision I spent many months considering (just shy of a year total). Finally I decided, and am happy. I read reviews, saw the actual models, and did not consider simple word-of-mouth experience (that lead me to getting the Acer I was so displeased with). Check out Maximum PC's LCD tech shattered article. It explains a whole lot about current monitors.

Also, if you really, really want the best gaming experience, with plenty of hz, you can always look up a Sony FW900, which is a 24" 1080p CRT that should take care of you, but they are big. IMO, no LCD has dethroned the CRT for color accuracy or gaming performance (no pixel lag). Plasma is closest, but doesn't come in small monitors, and can have burn in problems if a static image is left for several hours.

Just keep thinking and looking. Buy online, but look in store
Although I agree with most of your points, the term gaming as used by a consumer is different than the term gaming used as a marketing ploy by a manufacturer. In this particular case, he is trying to get rid of the tearing artifacting you get from some games. Increasing your refresh rate can dramatically improve this glitch. You can also feel a better response when controlling games and using a 120Hz monitor just like you could when using CRT monitors with higher refresh rates. On top of this, since he wants 3D he needs a 120 Hz monitor. So, in this case his use of the term gaming is spot on for the features he is looking for.

As for the Sony CRT, no thanks. I don't want to warp my desk. Been there, done that. (but you're right, they do have better pictures when ALL the alignments are spot on).
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