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post #1 of 16
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Well, it's been 7 years since I build a rig, and allot has changed since. This summer I have free time, and my laptop is finally showing signs of age, and it's time for me to upgrade to something with a bit more bite to it. I've made myself a budget of 1200$ (Canadian Dollars) to spend, and to build a rig made for mild FPS gaming, Programming and mainly Photo Editing (Adobe CS5 is a power hungry thing).

Here's the system I have build, the total cost is 783.99 (the grand total is 983.99, and that's after shipping and taxes). My two areas were I would question my build is mainly the Mobo and the GFX, I was wondering how would you guys tweak it, and what changes should I make to either make it stronger or a better bang for my buck type of system? Also, would this Mobo and CPU set be good for the future, upgrade wise, as my computers usually last me at least 3 to 5 years.

post #2 of 16
Don't get 8 gigs of RAM. Unnecessary. Get 2x2GB to cut cost.
post #3 of 16
That zalman cpu cooler is horrible. Get this:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-065-_-Product

That power supply could be changed to something a tad better. Such as either:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817371021
or
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817151096
The ram is ok but i think this would be better:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820144477
post #4 of 16
I don't think going with a 460 is the best idea to last you for years, It is already a generation old. Since its in a combo with the mobo it might be hard to replace but id suggest a 6850 or 6870 considering buying one of these with an AMD board would allow you to crossfire latter and they have amazing crossfire scaling. If you do this do some research on an 8+ phase board, that 965 is a great overclocker and you want a board to back it up. Also what the other guy said about the cpu cooler, atleast get a 212+/ good luck with the build.
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OCZ Agility 60GB, WD Caviar Black 1TB ASUS Black 2MB Cache DVD Burner Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Logitech G15 
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OCZ Agility 60GB, WD Caviar Black 1TB ASUS Black 2MB Cache DVD Burner Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Logitech G15 
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Hard drive? If the budget will allow, go for an SSD drive for your OS and a couple drives for programs/backups. You will be floored by the speeds on the SSD.

And yes, get the 8GB of memory for CS5. I have 4GB I am upgrading myself soon because I cannot stand some of my plugins still taking 30-45 seconds to render on larger images.

Good luck and welcome to OCN.
Edited by PhillyOverclocker - 2/24/11 at 2:45pm
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G-Skill Mushkin Callisto Deluxe WD Black LG Supermulti 
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Rasa Black CPU water block. Rasa X20 pump/res c... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Deck Legend Fire mechanical with Cherry Black s... Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200W modular PSU. 
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post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by PhillyOverclocker View Post
Hard drive? If the budget will allow, go for an SSD drive for your OS and a couple drives for programs/backups. You will be floored by the speeds on the SSD.

And yes, get the 8GB of memory for CS5. I have 4GB I am upgrading myself soon because I cannot stand some of my plugins still taking 30-45 seconds to render on larger images.

Good luck and welcome to OCN.
Sorry, I though I put it in, going for the HDD I was thinking going with the Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive. Space is not an issue as I have two External HDD to cover for now. What would you suggest as an SSD?
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by Vap0r87 View Post
I don't think going with a 460 is the best idea to last you for years, It is already a generation old. Since its in a combo with the mobo it might be hard to replace but id suggest a 6850 or 6870 considering buying one of these with an AMD board would allow you to crossfire latter and they have amazing crossfire scaling. If you do this do some research on an 8+ phase board, that 965 is a great overclocker and you want a board to back it up. Also what the other guy said about the cpu cooler, atleast get a 212+/ good luck with the build.
I suppose change it to a 6850 would not be an issue, I found this as an alternative SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814102908). And what Mobo would you suggest? I see the Crosshair from Asus as being good, but do have anything to suggest for a lower price?
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by jach11 View Post
That zalman cpu cooler is horrible. Get this:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-065-_-Product

That power supply could be changed to something a tad better. Such as either:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817371021
or
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817151096
The ram is ok but i think this would be better:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820144477
Thanks for the advice, I'll pick up one of those PSU's and the CPU fan is cheaper, and it's better then not complaints

Thanks everyone for the help, I'll try to plan something new out with the modifications!
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
Here goes nothing, the remodeled version pretty much, following closely the advice given. Still one tweak, the Mobo and GFx once more. The total cost (shipping and taxes included once more) is only 200$ more, and an SSD drive will be added but later on. My question is, how can maybe get a cheaper GFX card (money wise), and get a slightly better Mobo? Any suggestions are welcome, and thanks once more for everybody's contribution!


post #10 of 16
I'm not a fan of the above build... here's my revision:
Phenom II x6 1055T - $170 after promo code, worth the spendings over 965 (or just get a 955, seriously) - comes with free STALKER game
ASUS M4A87TD EVO + GTX 560 Ti - $345 - you don't need IGP in M4A88TD EVO, just get the 87TD EVO... 870 chipset overclocks better anyways apparently; this GPU is tiers up from 6870, same price
Patriot Sector 5 2x4GB 1600 CL9 - $90, $70 AR - OR Kingston 4x2GB HyperX Blu 1600 CL9 - $90, $50 AR [buy 2 kits] [2 rebates/purchase is valid]. High speed/low timings would be ESPECIALLY important and crucial if using an SSD.
Zalman CNPS10X - $40, $30 shipped - same price/cheaper than the Hyper 212+ due to free shipping. Hyper 212+ is a ripoff on Newegg nowadays
Antec TP-650 - $75 only on buy.com
Samsung F3 500GB - $40 after promo - better in every way and $10 cheaper
NZXT TEMPEST EVO [out of stock for now] - $90 - I wouldn't take any other high end case, for $90 shipped.... eATX support, toolless features, black interior, window, fans... DEAL
LG 22X DVD - $17 shipped after promo
Your build choice: $920
Total cost before rebates: $867
After rebates: $842 or $827 depending on RAM choice
You save $50-80 and get better parts all around - down those parts to, say... 955, 4GB of RAM (enough for gaming).... you can save $200 or more.
Edited by xd_1771 - 2/24/11 at 10:28pm
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