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SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3/F4 vs Caviar Black

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I found a few outdated posts on the F3, so i wanted to find out more recent comparisons. Im looking at these..

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R HE103SJ 1TB

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB


The reviews i saw on the F3, were looking at the black, but im not sure what version. The one im looking at is the 6.0 SATA /64mb version. Which makes me question the statements that the F3 (3.0 SATA 32mb) is faster.

This isnt something im getting Right away, but its on my mind. But it will be primarily for gaming and little else. This would go in to a newly build machine, likely in a Raid 0 setup. (toying with the idea of using a SSD for the boot drive, and these as the gaming drive.)

Statements? Opinions?
post #2 of 32
The F3 will be the best pick. It will get Caviar Black speeds, but will be quieter, from what I've heard.

Two F3's in Raid0 would be a great pair, especially with an SSD as a boot drive.

AFAIK, the F4 is not aimed to be a high performance drive.
    
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The f3's have faster throughput aka move more data
The caviar's have slighty faster seek times aka better os drive
this seek advantage is only be a millisecond or so most people prefer the higher bandwidth and sacrifice the close seek time

Caviar blacks are bad for raid they have many issues especially the 1tb drives

The f3's work well in raid with very few complaints

Overall most people go with the f3's for cost and speed.
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Hard Drives have no use for Sata 6 (SSD do), the Samsung drives are faster.
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If you want the best drives for RAID then you want two WD RE4's. They are made for RAID and are as fast if not faster than the Samsungs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136798
I'm using two 500GB drives and short stroked them to 500GB total. More than enough space for me:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136697
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Another quick question, how can you tell (by stats from newegg or whatever) how many platters the drives have? or is there s way to tell?

From what i read in a review, the WD RE4 has 4 platters in it, and i think the F3 only has two (if i read that correctly).

Also, ive heard that using a mother boards Onboard Raid controller is genrally not a good idea, and i guess some have said to get a seprate controller. Why is that?

Mobo im looking at is this..

ASUS Rampage II Extreme
Edited by lyian - 2/25/11 at 2:49pm
post #7 of 32
The F3's are best. Fastest and generally cheapest also.

You don't need SATA III for mechanical hard drives, they don't saturate SATAII as it is.

And yes, I believe the 1TB F3 has 2 500GB platters, not sure how you tell from newegg or stats unless it's specifically stated; best to just google it.

I'm not that great with RAID (only got mine working knowing what I needed to with my board), but I think onboard RAID for RAID 0 is generally fine, separate controllers are better in other cases I think, or when you need them to be really fast (SSDs), but I don't think for RAIDing two 1TB hard drives you need anything more than onboard RAID.
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Even though I am a long time fan of WD, I'd recommend the F3/4 over the newest Caviar Blacks. I run the SATA II version in my wife's rig, and it is an excellent drive. Blazing fast (for a platter drive), silent, and runs cool. The SATA III drive in my sig rig, however, is ridiculously loud. I don't know what all was changed between the SATA II and III versions, but the SATA III version is louder than any drive I have ever used (and that includes "classics" like the old Bigfoot drives).
 
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F3 for life!
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F3 for life!
haha ok ok.. the F3 has replaced the WD blacks in my wishlist

Thank you guys for the info. The fact that so many are pointing toward the F3's and how fast they are is a good sign.
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