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USB ive never been a fan of usb connectors for audio i prefer analog
So many things wrong in this thread.

1. An internal sound card is just as digital as USB. It does the same job as an external USB solution: It's a DAC. It converts the DIGITAL sound to analog. Digital will always be involved unless you're playing from a turntable.

2. An external USB DAC/Amp will always provide better sound than an internal solution. Internal sound cards will always be victims of EFI/RFI. And they are not upgradeable/expandable.

You definitely should take a look at external solutions, you will be much happier in the end.

And SRH840 is a good suggestion.
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For 350 I'd pop on an Essence ST and Shure 840s probably. That'd suit your gaming and music needs best I think.

v - If he buys the Essence, it'll have a built in amp. Not all headphones benefit much from amps though.
Those Shure's look epic and comfortable

@ TheWolfe :
I dont own an amp(yet )
post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by TimeToKill View Post
Those Shure's look epic and comfortable

@ TheWolfe :
I dont own an amp(yet )
They sound great, but depending on how large your head is, some people complain it's vice-grippy. They're definitely not the -most- comfortable headphones out there.
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They sound great, but depending on how large your head is, some people complain it's vice-grippy. They're definitely not the -most- comfortable headphones out there.
i have a biggish head i guess most headphones/sets i get are tight the Corsair HS1 was heavy and tight and now broken in 3 places.

Id prefer to have a really comfortable headphone because i can play games for a couple hours at a time and having something heavy/tight/not padded really starts to hurt after a while.
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Originally Posted by TimeToKill View Post
i have a biggish head i guess most headphones/sets i get are tight the Corsair HS1 was heavy and tight and now broken in 3 places.

Id prefer to have a really comfortable headphone because i can play games for a couple hours at a time and having something heavy/tight/not padded really starts to hurt after a while.
The one thing I remembered most about these headphones were that they were top heavy. I didn't have a problem with them clamping my head. Still, it's hard to get the quality they give and also get perfect comfort.

I'd still recommend these.
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post #36 of 46
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While the M50s are amazing headphones for music, I'm not sure I would use them for gaming. I just think there are better headphones he can get in his price range that handle gaming better and also provide music quality. I just don't think the M50s have the clarity required for serious gaming. Then again if he's more of a casual gamer..M50s might not be so bad.
That's why I originally suggested the Beyerdynamic DT-880. It'll take some searching around if he is to fit that into his budget along with the sound card, but it's manageable. In terms of comfort, Beyers can destroy most headphones out there.

This is the cheapest place to get it from: http://www.proaudiostar.com/beyerdyn...emium-250.html

I made them an offer through their eBay listing and I ended up getting them for $229 shipped.
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That's why I originally suggested the Beyerdynamic DT-880. It'll take some searching around if he is to fit that into his budget along with the sound card, but it's manageable. In terms of comfort, Beyers can destroy most headphones out there.

This is the cheapest place to get it from: http://www.proaudiostar.com/beyerdyn...emium-250.html

I made them an offer through their eBay listing and I ended up getting them for $229 shipped.
if i'd be able to find those a bit cheaper i would love them

so from what ive gathered in this thread the M-50, DT-880, and Shure 840's are a fairly safe choice for gaming/music needs + The Asus Xonar St sound card
would it be better to get an external DAC than and internal sound card?
Or
get a sound card and add a DAC/Amp down the road?
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if i'd be able to find those a bit cheaper i would love them

so from what ive gathered in this thread the M-50, DT-880, and Shure 840's are a fairly safe choice for gaming/music needs + The Asus Xonar St sound card
would it be better to get an external DAC than and internal sound card?
Or
get a sound card and add a DAC/Amp down the road?
Amps and DACs can come later. You're better off burning in the headphones first and knowing exactly what you want from an amp before buying one.
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A DAC isn't good for gaming, but it'll be leaps and bounds better than a sound card in terms of music.

If you want to be happy with everything you listed, the Essence ST is the way to go. STX if you want to save 20 bucks and are only planning on a 2.1 system or headphones. They have a built in amp as well.

DT880s are way more expensive than any other the other headphones listed. M50s are..not the best for gaming, but great for music. Shure 840s are all arounders.
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A DAC isn't good for gaming, but it'll be leaps and bounds better than a sound card in terms of music.

If you want to be happy with everything you listed, the Essence ST is the way to go. STX if you want to save 20 bucks and are only planning on a 2.1 system or headphones. They have a built in amp as well.

DT880s are way more expensive than any other the other headphones listed. M50s are..not the best for gaming, but great for music. Shure 840s are all arounders.
Or he can save a little more by getting a X-Fi Titanium HD, which has very similar specs to the Xonar STX and sounds very competitive. There's a thread on Head-Fi with some preferring the HD over STX. Those 2 cards are pretty much neck-to-neck in quality to the point where it's down to personal preference. Plus from my experience, Creative cards (or rather, their software) seem to agree with games better in general.
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