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First off, I'm looking for some 120mm fans with white blades, to go with my AC F8's, I've looked at the F12's, but I was just wondering if there are any better out there? Also is this airflow good? I'm worried that there'll be too much negative pressure. This if for a scratch case I'm going to be building, all that only covers the MoBo. Also the black lines are air vents.



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If you want quiet, get a new case. Quiet 80mm fans don't move much air.

The case as you have set it up will make a great vacuum cleaner, building up lots of dust inside it. That, and you will hear air hissing in through every crack. It's a 'lovely' addition to your fan sounds.

Quieter cooling comes from fans gently blowing into your case with a large open space for the air to exit (cutting out your rear grill will do this). You will then have more of a flow-through airflow than a positive or negative air pressure. The latter implies air that is not moving much.
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If that's the case, it's lucky I haven't yet built it. Also I don't think I made it clear, thats looking straight at the motherboard from the left, with a front mounted PSU. I misunderstood negative pressure, that link in your sig cleared that up, thanks. What should I do then? Have more airflow in?
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If that's the case, it's lucky I haven't yet built it. Also I don't think I made it clear, thats looking straight at the motherboard from the left, with a front mounted PSU. I misunderstood negative pressure, that link in your sig cleared that up, thanks. What should I do then? Have more airflow in?
Your diagram is perfectly clear. The point I'd like to make is that a "positive Pressure case" means you can control where the air goes in, which means you can filter that air. You can have something simple, like a one- or two-fan setup, or you can go whole hog, like this:



The key is to allow free exit of air from your case. That allows air to flow through without ever building up any real pressure in it. You will note that in my rig not only does air blow through where the heatsink is, but with slot covers removed another airstream goes past the gpu and improves cooling for that. Think flow: Air goes where you send it, and leaves where it can.

The key is to have a good case. CM's HAF 912 and 692 are good examples of cases with potentially excellent airflow. The expensive aluminum cases tend to have rear fan windows rather than grills, so they don't require modding to remove grills.
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Ok, I understand, let it out rather than force it out. So would this be better then?

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post #6 of 11
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Ok, I understand, let it out rather than force it out. So would this be better then?

That side intake fan will need to be very gentle to avoid overwhelming the system and forcing air back toward the psu. I'd recommend testing your temps with it as intake, as exhaust, and with no fan.

OTOH, I wouldn't spend a penny more on that setup. When you think about it, your psu is putting warm air into the motherboard area. The old designers thought in terms of cooling all the components of the case, especially motherboard elements. And they wanted to cool tham down only the minimum they had to. They didn't think about overclocking.

With recent setups the hottest elements are the cpu and the gpu(s), and sometimes chipsets. Newer cases are designed to facilitate that purpose. That's why I wouldn't spend any more money on your current rig. Buy or save up for a new case.
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Well, this is for a case build I'm planning on doing in the near future, just waiting on another case to pull drive bays out of, so this is all hypothetical at the moment. What if I were to have tall feet, and have the PSU exhaust out the bottom? Thanks a lot for your help so far by the way.
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Well, this is for a case build I'm planning on doing in the near future, just waiting on another case to pull drive bays out of, so this is all hypothetical at the moment. What if I were to have tall feet, and have the PSU exhaust out the bottom? Thanks a lot for your help so far by the way.
You're welcome. Just what case are you planning to get?

Yes, exhaust air out the bottom is better, but that still leaves the psu exhaust at the bottom of the case where it can be drawn into your intake fans. You will note that standard cases with psu's at the bottom exhaust their air out the back, where it is joined by other exhaust air streams. It is not recirculated.

Also, I'm only using two 80mm fans temporarily, and they're at 5v. When I next mod my case I'm putting a single 120mm fan there. 80mm fans that move air quietly don't move much air. 80mm fans that move a decent amount of air are loud. They're from a time that for the most part has come and gone.
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Whatever one I can get my hands on first, all I'm using from it is drive bay mountings, the rest I'm going to build from plywood and acrylic. But I guess I'll have to rethink my case design a little. I was using those 80mm ones because that's what I have, 3 Arctic Cooling F8's and 4 unbranded ones from ebay. I'm incredibly short on cash, so buying as little as possible would be good, would it be worth it, cooling and noise wise, to replace the 80mm fans with a 120mm then?
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Whatever one I can get my hands on first, all I'm using from it is drive bay mountings, the rest I'm going to build from plywood and acrylic. But I guess I'll have to rethink my case design a little. I was using those 80mm ones because that's what I have, 3 Arctic Cooling F8's and 4 unbranded ones from ebay. I'm incredibly short on cash, so buying as little as possible would be good, would it be worth it, cooling and noise wise, to replace the 80mm fans with a 120mm then?
Yes. Yate Loon fans can cost very little. If you get highspeed YL's get them from Petra Tech. Slow speed you can probably save money at JAB-Tech, where they are $3.20 each when you buy three or more.
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