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Well she must be doing something that requires performance otherwise he wouldnt want to overclock the computer, why start killing the computer by overclocking it when he can give it extra life and performance by getting a SSD.
its common sense.

Luckily for me my HDD read times are pretty damn good (130MB/s READ/ 75MB/s write)
That is why I suggested installing Windows on the 1.5TB HDD the PC ALREADY HAS (it has two of those, according to what he said). For most people that is more than enough for performance. A 1.5 TB has an aereal densitiy much bigger than a 160GB HDD. Plus, it has at least 32MB of cache, versus 8 for the 160GB HDD. Those two features will get him performance in the league of yours, and much better than the 160 HDD.

As to the rest, you are speculating. He still didn't come back here to tell us what his mom will be doing with the PC. Therefore, you have absolutely no idea if the bottleneck will be the CPU, GPU, HDD, RAM, or if there is a bottleneck at all for the kind of performance she will need.
Edited by tpi2007 - 2/26/11 at 12:54pm
 
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Frankly, i didn't even consider that the HD or video card could be a bottleneck- I was just trying to make her PC as quick as possible without buying a bunch of hardware (spending a lot of money.) I will see what I can do about getting her a better video card. You are right about the HD too-it is a (HITACHI Deskstar 7K160 HDS721616PLA380 (0A32728) 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s) so it probably is part of the problem. I'll have to talk fast to get her to reinstall windows to one of the newer drives though- you wouldn't believe the amount of clutter she has collected on the thing.

Again, thanks for all your help!
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post #23 of 43
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PS- No, she doesn't do a lot of gaming. She does like to do a lot of video editing, etc. And she tends to keep a lot of programs open all at once. Don't get me wrong, the PC does OK, I was just hoping to pep it up a bit for her. Perhaps I bit off more than I can chew here...
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post #24 of 43
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PS- No, she doesn't do a lot of gaming. She does like to do a lot of video editing, etc. And she tends to keep a lot of programs open all at once. Don't get me wrong, the PC does OK, I was just hoping to pep it up a bit for her. Perhaps I bit off more than I can chew here...

Make sure she is using a video editing program that takes advantage of 4 cores. That will give her a big boost.

4GB of RAM is good for having a lot of programs open at the same time, but depending on how many exactly or what programs are (heavy duty programs like video editing programs; photo editing programs like Photoshop, a web browser with more than 50 tabs open, etc), she might benefit from an additional 2 or even 4GB of RAM for a total of 6 or 8GB of ram.

Moving from the old HDD will give her a big boost when it comes to boot-up time, program loading and video editing.

In all honesty, the last thing you need to do is overclock the CPU. It has plenty of horsepower, unless she depends on video editing for a living and needs every 3 minute saving in video encoding she can get; otherwise, just make sure the program she is using takes advantage of 4 cores.

But I suggest you either replace the x1300 with the 8400GS for smooth, video accelerated decoding and playback (for example Youtube HD flash), or something else more recent. A $75 Radeon HD5670 is a good starting point.
Edited by tpi2007 - 2/26/11 at 2:51pm
 
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post #25 of 43
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I thought windows couldn't use more than 4GB of ram, at least the 32bit versions- did I have that wrong? ( I just found something interesting: PC Wizard says 4GB installed, but the system Properties screen says "2.00GB of RAM Physical Address Extension.")

Also, for clarification, this is the sort of video card you are talking about:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-360-_-Product
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post #26 of 43
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I thought windows couldn't use more than 4GB of ram, at least the 32bit versions- did I have that wrong? ( I just found something interesting: PC Wizard says 4GB installed, but the system Properties screen says "2.00GB of RAM Physical Address Extension.")

Also, for clarification, this is the sort of video card you are talking about:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-360-_-Product
holy crap, only 2GB RAM, oh damn, your in a pickle there then, you might want to format to a 64bit version of 7 (you can use your 32bit key if you dont have a 64bit key.)

you could also get this card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127571
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post #27 of 43
Video Editing requires alot of multitasking so i recommend you upgrade a bit. Also a refresh install of OS helps and most of all.. i still think a i7 is the way to go for video editing but meh.. do whatever you gotta do.
post #28 of 43
I'm sure as hell that if someone doesn't lock this thread his mom will end up with some custom watercooled quad-sli and a 7ghz 990x.

You don't need to buy anything, that pc is fine, just reinstall windows. It's that easy.
Edited by -Droid- - 2/26/11 at 3:47pm
post #29 of 43
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Originally Posted by rdtinco View Post
I thought windows couldn't use more than 4GB of ram, at least the 32bit versions- did I have that wrong? ( I just found something interesting: PC Wizard says 4GB installed, but the system Properties screen says "2.00GB of RAM Physical Address Extension.")

Also, for clarification, this is the sort of video card you are talking about:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-360-_-Product

You can't; sorry, when I wrote that post I forgot she was using Windows XP. Yes, with Windows XP, 4GB is the limit, and it will only use around 3 GB with a 1GB GPU installed (the OS has to map the GPU memory in the main memory, along with other system devices).

But that report saying she only has 2GB of Ram is not good. Have you asked your brother if he actually left the full 4GB of RAM in the PC or took 2 out ?

If not, try to use CPU-Z and go to the memory and SPD tabs, See what it says.

As to the GPU, yes, that is a good example, but perhaps for the same price you could get the 512MB GDDR5 version. The GPU itself can't really take advantage of 1GB, and the GDDR5 memory has more than twice the bandwidth than the DDR3 version, which makes the GDDR5 version faster. And they both cost around the same (lots of them even have rebates).
Edited by tpi2007 - 2/26/11 at 4:09pm
 
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post #30 of 43
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So more like this one for the video card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125304

CPU-z and PC wizard both say 2 sticks (slot 1 and slot 3) of 2GB Gskill ram F2-8500cl5 so I should have 4GB, right?
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