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http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx
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Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?
Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well.
In looking at telemetry data from thousands of traces and focusing on pagefile reads and writes, we find that
  • Pagefile.sys reads outnumber pagefile.sys writes by about 40 to 1,
  • Pagefile.sys read sizes are typically quite small, with 67% less than or equal to 4 KB, and 88% less than 16 KB.
  • Pagefile.sys writes are relatively large, with 62% greater than or equal to 128 KB and 45% being exactly 1 MB in size.
In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.
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I can't find to disable it on my bios.. Is there any other way to disable it?
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Thank you, Duckie! That was it!

AHCI vs IDE, definitely go AHCI.

Oh! and to rid yourself of the "safely remove hardware" feature?, install Intel RST ( http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/chpsts/imsm ) and that should clear it up as it has for me. Since we have the same Motherboard, it will work too.
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Originally Posted by mikkolangot;12528666 
I can't find to disable it on my bios.. Is there any other way to disable it?

Since you changed to AHCI mode already in BIOS, you may need to also update your BIOS to 1108.
and if you are up to date, the Intel IMSM/RST install will fix that, as I said previously.
Edited by t0adphr0g - 2/25/11 at 10:03pm
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t0adphr0g!!! you the man!! yeah that worked.. instead of that "safety remove hardware" icon it is replaced by the intel RST. i could disable that icon on startup using CCleaner right? +rep
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Originally Posted by mikkolangot;12528756 
t0adphr0g!!! you the man!! yeah that worked.. instead of that "safety remove hardware" icon it is replaced by the intel RST. i could disable that icon on startup using CCleaner right? +rep

Glad to be of assistance, you can remove the icon for RST in the Preferences tab in the program itself. You do not need to kill the startup in CCleaner.
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Gotcha.. So all in all i just shrinked the page file to 1gb- 1.5gb and did what u said.. i re run the windows rating earlier i got a 7.3 score with IDE setup.. now i got 7.7 Again, Thanks to all of you guys! smile.gif
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So much uninformed people here.

1) Leaving pagefile on the SSD is not recommended for it will keep read/write data unnecessarily and shorten the SSD's life. Also pagefile on SSD will decrease overall disk the performance as one has to minimalize small read/writes on SSDs for optimum performance.

2)If you have the 12GB ram then disable the pagefile. You don't need it for anything (Unless you play old games like Titan Quest which force you to enable it). Disabling pagefile will increase performance because it means your OS stops using a portion of your drive as ram and uses the actual ram instead.

3) As i stated before you need to minimalize unnecessary and small read/writes if you want to further increase SSD performance. Like moving your Temp folder or your browser cache folder to a harddrive.

SSD drives work different than HDDs. The less busy you keep your SSD the better input/output performance you'll get.
Edited by Nautilus - 2/27/11 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by Nautilus;12542943 
So much uninformed people here.

1) Leaving pagefile on the SSD is not recommended for it will keep read/write data unnecessarily and shorten the SSD's life. Also pagefile on SSD will decrease overall disk the performance as one has to minimalize small read/writes on SSDs for optimum performance.



3) As i stated before you need to minimalize unnecessary and small read/writes if you want to further increase SSD performance. Like moving your Temp folder or your browser cache folder to a harddrive.

SSD drives work different than HDDs. The less busy you keep your SSD the better input/output performance you'll get.
Seriously, that's pretty outdated information and only applies to the older SSD's with bad controllers/firmware *cough* JMicron *cough*. With newer SSD's and TRIM, performance degradation shouldn't be that big an issue. The only valid concern you have is frequent read/writes would lessen the SSD's lifespan, however, even that is blown out of proportion.

Keeping the pagefile on SSD would give you better performance than if you move it to a mechanical HDD. Of course, OCZ and other SSD manufacturers would prefer that you keep pagefile and temp folders on a mechanical drive to decrease the possibility of RMA. tongue.gif

Another thing, SSD's can handle heavy workloads better than HDD's. The more "busy" you keep your SSD (heavy multi-tasking, etc), the more you'll notice how much faster it is than a mechanical HDD.
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I've bought a corsair nova 128gb 2 days ago and the info in this thread was very helpful applaud.gif
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Originally Posted by Nautilus;12542943 
So much uninformed people here.

1) Leaving pagefile on the SSD is not recommended for it will keep read/write data unnecessarily and shorten the SSD's life. Also pagefile on SSD will decrease overall disk the performance as one has to minimalize small read/writes on SSDs for optimum performance.

2)If you have the 12GB ram then disable the pagefile. You don't need it for anything (Unless you play old games like Titan Quest which force you to enable it). Disabling pagefile will increase performance because it means your OS stops using a portion of your drive as ram and uses the actual ram instead.

3) As i stated before you need to minimalize unnecessary and small read/writes if you want to further increase SSD performance. Like moving your Temp folder or your browser cache folder to a harddrive.

SSD drives work different than HDDs. The less busy you keep your SSD the better input/output performance you'll get.

Actually, this is the misinformation.

Microsoft itself has stated that the page file should not be disabled and is safe to place on SSDs.
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