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xxlawman87xx:
Most performance the Radeon cards out perform the ATI cards
You do realize that Radeon cards ARE ATI, but really, they are now AMD.

Secondly, if you're doing editing, and working with multi-media you are better off with a 470 vs 6950 or a 560, CUDA is much more relevant than the amount of RAM. The RAM only comes into play at resolutions like 2560x1600 in gaming.

AMD cards are not optimal for Multi-media like their Nvdia counterparts are:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-bit,2770.html

This GTX 470 runs very cool and quiet:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-513-_-Product

Thirdly, stick with the 2500K, overclocked it will perform really well, and save you $100.

Now, why a 470 vs a 560TI? What you will read below applies to the 560TI.

"For GF104, NVIDIA removed FP64 from only 2 of the 3 blocks of CUDA cores. As a result 1 block of 16 CUDA cores is FP64 capable, while the other 2 are not. This gives NVIDIA the advantage of being able to employ smaller CUDA cores for 32 of the 48 CUDA cores in each SM while not removing FP64 entirely. Because only 1 block of CUDA cores has FP64 capabilities and in turn executes FP64 instructions at 1/4 FP32 performance (handicapped from a native 1/2), GF104 will not be a FP64 monster."

In other words double precision performance took a rather severe hit with gf104, in comparison to gf100. Nvidia also switched to a superscalar execution process with gf104, which is a method of extracting instruction level parallelism (ILP) from a thread, as opposed to thread level parallelism (TLP) implemented in gf100. Again, this tends to benefit gaming efficiency/performance more so then compute performance. You can read more about these architectural tweaks in the linked article below:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/n...the-200-king/3
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2010rig:

Bit of a typo on that one

In regards to the 470, is it possible to get good multimedia performance and gaming performance or is it one or the other?

Thanks for recommending the 2500K, looks pretty simular to 2600K and the price range is good too
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Ok so here is an update on my build so far

CPU: i7 2500K (changed)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 Pro (changed)
Primary HDD: OCZ Vertex 2 120Gb (changed)
Secondary HDD: WD 1TB 64MB Cached 7200rpm
Video Card: GTX470 (changed based on 2010rig advice)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB ( 2 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 Memory Kit for Intel Core i3, i5, i7 and AMD Platforms SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9

PSU: Antec True Power Quattro 850W (thinking Corsair could be good too)
Case: Antec Lanboy Air (Blue)
Edited by motion2082 - 2/26/11 at 6:21am
post #24 of 33

EVGA Gtx470 without a doubt will outperform the 6950 for your needs in multimedia and gaming. Corsair power supplies are amazing. But the RAM comes into question like it does with most post on here.

for power supply.

x2 Will also be better

Then of course the video card

My two cents.
post #25 of 33
For the system you should not need more then 750 watts unless you plan on SLI'ing cards later
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But then again I dont need my 1200 watts
post #27 of 33

Oh and one more thing, I also recommend this:

You will get many uses out of it.
post #28 of 33
Thread Starter 
NuLLMyndZ:

Dont plan on SLIing at this stage, any reason you chose the TX750 over the HX series?

RAM looks good, are the Dominators compatible with this mobo?

I'm going to go for the GTX470 as it a good price and the top GPUs are quite expensive.

Getting pretty happy with changes now, just have to pick a good PSU
Edited by motion2082 - 2/26/11 at 6:27am
post #29 of 33
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You do realize that Radeon cards ARE ATI, but really, they are now AMD.

Secondly, if you're doing editing, and working with multi-media you are better off with a 470 vs 6950 or a 560, CUDA is much more relevant than the amount of RAM. The RAM only comes into play at resolutions like 2560x1600 in gaming.

AMD cards are not optimal for Multi-media like their Nvdia counterparts are:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-bit,2770.html

This GTX 470 runs very cool and quiet:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-513-_-Product

Thirdly, stick with the 2500K, overclocked it will perform really well, and save you $100.

Now, why a 470 vs a 560TI? What you will read below applies to the 560TI.

"For GF104, NVIDIA removed FP64 from only 2 of the 3 blocks of CUDA cores. As a result 1 block of 16 CUDA cores is FP64 capable, while the other 2 are not. This gives NVIDIA the advantage of being able to employ smaller CUDA cores for 32 of the 48 CUDA cores in each SM while not removing FP64 entirely. Because only 1 block of CUDA cores has FP64 capabilities and in turn executes FP64 instructions at 1/4 FP32 performance (handicapped from a native 1/2), GF104 will not be a FP64 monster."

In other words double precision performance took a rather severe hit with gf104, in comparison to gf100. Nvidia also switched to a superscalar execution process with gf104, which is a method of extracting instruction level parallelism (ILP) from a thread, as opposed to thread level parallelism (TLP) implemented in gf100. Again, this tends to benefit gaming efficiency/performance more so then compute performance. You can read more about these architectural tweaks in the linked article below:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/n...the-200-king/3
basically reiterating everything I've said thus far
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post #30 of 33
And again, 8 gb of ram will definitely cost you more without you realizing any benefits.. and it would be wise to pick up a gtx 560ti...only get the gtx 470 if you get it at a great deal... benchmarks aside, it is an amazing card and will benefit you greatly..don't take a step backwards with the video card..because in the future if you want to upgrade you won't be able to get rid of it easily...with a gtx 560ti you can sli in a year and still be happy..

do the right thing, son.
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