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Okay, so here's the low down. After adding my GTX470 and GT240, and having other random issues during that same time frame, I've now decided to stress test my rig again. It hard locks up now though, at known stable clocks .

Old Stable (with a single HD4890):
  • 275 x 13.5 CPU (3712MHz, 1.55v)
  • 275 x 9 CPU-NB (2475MHz, 1.30v) (had to use K10Stat for volts, 2200MHz was stable without software aid)
  • 275 x 8 HT Link (2200MHz, stock NB volts / HT volts / everything else)
  • 275 x 4 RAM (550MHz / DDR2-1100 @ 5-5-5-15-20-2T, 2.30v) (RAM is rated for 2.30v)
  • 100MHz PCIe frequency

Those settings have passed well over 24 hours Prime95, forcing 7GB of RAM usage....BEFORE my 470 and 240 were added.

Now, I lock up at the above settings. Even with an 8x NB without K10Stat being used for CPU-NB voltage.

The only way I can seem to get it to NOT lock up (so far) has been to knock everything down to stock, and use less than 2.10v on my memory. Now, since it works just fine and passes with lower memory voltages, the memory seems to be fine.

I have tried the following:
  • Lowering to 250 x 14 / 264 x 14 / 262 x 14 (keeping everything well where it should be to be stable without software).
  • Raised my PCIe frequency to 105MHz (this seemed to help slightly, but I still lock up)
  • Lowered RAM clocks, so I could lower vDIMM (this works, but is unacceptable).

I have NOT tried:
  • Taking either GPU out. I would prefer to figure out what the problem is, and what I can do to fix it WITHOUT sacrificing hardware in the process.

Is it possible my IMC is damaged from too much RAM voltage (2.30v), even though my sticks are rated for that? Or is it possible that having 2 GPU's is too much stress on my NB?

What can I do to fix this, and get my stable clocks back?
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This maybe a shot in the dark, but with the added GPU/s you could try upping the NB voltage.

Me personally I wouldn't up the PCIe clocks due to whats attached to them HDD's and what not.

Also another thing to try is to drop the HT to 2000 and under. I don't know if that would help.
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This maybe a shot in the dark, but with the added GPU/s you could try upping the NB voltage.

Me personally I wouldn't up the PCIe clocks due to whats attached to them HDD's and what not.
I suppose I could try upping my regular old NB voltages. Anybody know what's safe to go up to? My board overvolts everything by default (<3 DFI), so my NB is already sitting at 1.25v at "stock". Which I believe REAL stock is either 1.20v or 1.12v (I forget which).

EDIT:
I've tried dropping HT Link. Doesn't help. My 275 reference clock overclock uses the 8x multiplier because my 7x multi doesn't work correctly for HT Link.
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Pio , maybe somethigns giving up after all that time under the crazy volts, personally i think somethings wrong with the the Mobo...
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Pio , maybe somethigns giving up after all that time under the crazy volts, personally i think somethings wrong with the the Mobo...
-.- WLB
I haven't given anything crazy voltages though.

I've gone to 1.60v for maybe 5 minutes at MOST, but that was with sub zero temps. The chip has lived its life at 1.55v, which is perfectly safe.

My RAM has NEVER seen over 2.30v (which they're rated for that).

My chipset has NEVER been overvolted.

My CPU-NB has never seen over 1.40v, which up to 1.45v is safe. And I'm limited there, as I have to use software to adjust that.
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You may want to increase NB voltage indeed, now with more PCI-E lanes in use.
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You may want to increase NB voltage indeed, now with more PCI-E lanes in use.
On a slight hunch that was the problem, I've already done this .

NB Core = 1.37v (stock is 1.25v)
NB PCIe = 1.20v (stock is 1.12v)

Almost 3 hours stable so far. We'll see. I was getting my hard lock ups somewhere around 5-6 hours before.
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Okay, so here's the low down. After adding my GTX470 and GT240, and having other random issues during that same time frame, I've now decided to stress test my rig again. It hard locks up now though, at known stable clocks .

Old Stable (with a single HD4890):
  • 275 x 13.5 CPU (3712MHz, 1.55v)
  • 275 x 9 CPU-NB (2475MHz, 1.30v) (had to use K10Stat for volts, 2200MHz was stable without software aid)
  • 275 x 8 HT Link (2200MHz, stock NB volts / HT volts / everything else)
  • 275 x 4 RAM (550MHz / DDR2-1100 @ 5-5-5-15-20-2T, 2.30v) (RAM is rated for 2.30v)
  • 100MHz PCIe frequency

Those settings have passed well over 24 hours Prime95, forcing 7GB of RAM usage....BEFORE my 470 and 240 were added.

Now, I lock up at the above settings. Even with an 8x NB without K10Stat being used for CPU-NB voltage.

The only way I can seem to get it to NOT lock up (so far) has been to knock everything down to stock, and use less than 2.10v on my memory. Now, since it works just fine and passes with lower memory voltages, the memory seems to be fine.

I have tried the following:
  • Lowering to 250 x 14 / 264 x 14 / 262 x 14 (keeping everything well where it should be to be stable without software).
  • Raised my PCIe frequency to 105MHz (this seemed to help slightly, but I still lock up)
  • Lowered RAM clocks, so I could lower vDIMM (this works, but is unacceptable).

I have NOT tried:
  • Taking either GPU out. I would prefer to figure out what the problem is, and what I can do to fix it WITHOUT sacrificing hardware in the process.

Is it possible my IMC is damaged from too much RAM voltage (2.30v), even though my sticks are rated for that? Or is it possible that having 2 GPU's is too much stress on my NB?

What can I do to fix this, and get my stable clocks back?
My initial thought is that it is the IMC.
You are already running an Athlon II 640 with 2 cores disables @ 2GHz for unknown reasons.

I dont think your NB would be having trouble with those 2 cards.
Did you get a temp spike on your NB at any point or did your system start crawling when starting up the desktop at any time? You could try upping NB voltage to be sure.
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Maybe too much power draw??
You have to try and free a pci-e :S. Just remove the 240 for a bit and see what happens.
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On a slight hunch that was the problem, I've already done this .

NB Core = 1.37v (stock is 1.25v)
NB PCIe = 1.20v (stock is 1.12v)

Almost 3 hours stable so far. We'll see. I was getting my hard lock ups somewhere around 5-6 hours before.
Update, this was not stable. Hard lock up right before 3 hours or Prime.

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My initial thought is that it is the IMC.
You are already running an Athlon II 640 with 2 cores disables @ 2GHz for unknown reasons.

I dont think your NB would be having trouble with those 2 cards.
Did you get a temp spike on your NB at any point or did your system start crawling when starting up the desktop at any time? You could try upping NB voltage to be sure.
Huh? I'm running an Athlon II x4 630, not a 640. I have all 4 cores enabled. I WAS running on 2 cores, underclocked and undervolted. But it was for very OBVIOUS reasons. My Xiggy was broken, so I was on the stock cooler with no fan.

No, no temp spikes. All of my temperatures are WELL BELOW what they should be. 32*C load on my CPU and cores, NB is loading at 36*C. My PWM area is at 26*C under load.

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Maybe too much power draw??
You have to try and free a pci-e :S. Just remove the 240 for a bit and see what happens.
How could I POSSIBLY have too much power draw? I'm drawing maybe, MAYBE 350-400w under a full Prime+Furmark load. For some odd reason, I doubt that's taxing my PSU at all .
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