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Might want to do a little research on how Skyrim is shaping up...
Its looking like its even more of a moron level RPG with near 100% console design than DA2.
If I had to choose between the 2 of them right now, I choose DA2.
OK, you have links detailing this?
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Masterkromm is right on the money with his comment. The combat wasn't threatening in the least. I just spammed special abilities too. You could wail on the ogre and take him down no sweat, where in DA:O if the ogres weren't controlled via stuns or what have you, you would get hammered. The mage got swarmed by darkspawn constantly but was able to take as much abuse as any of the plate wearers. There was no attempt to hide the fact that pirate girl had the most enormous of lady parts (I guess DA2 needs a Miranda). I just dunno anymore. Flashy animations don't make the characters look cool, it just makes them look silly. The voice replies from Hawke make me FEEL silly.

On the upside, there should be plenty more good games coming out this year, and I can't afford them all on release. My experience with the demo is making that choice a little easier.
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I must admit, I'm pleasantly surprised that others feel the same way... Not to take anything away from those who will undoubtedly enjoy DA2(as I'm certain it will be a financial success)... But to see others put off by streamlining and inherent consolitis gives me at least some hope for the future of cRPGs. It tells me, that despite current trends within the dev/pub community, there is a market for thought provoking, immersive and engaging RPGs.

As with all things, I think it's cyclical... The kids/adolescents/casual gamers Bioware is desperately trying to court will eventually grow up/mature/evolve and perhaps their interests will shift too?
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I must admit, I'm pleasantly surprised that others feel the same way... Not to take anything away from those who will undoubtedly enjoy DA2(as I'm certain it will be a financial success)... But to see others put off by streamlining and inherent consolitis gives me at least some hope for the future of cRPGs. It tells me, that despite current trends within the dev/pub community, there is a market for thought provoking, immersive and engaging RPGs.

As with all things, I think it's cyclical... The kids/adolescents/casual gamers Bioware is desperately trying to court will eventually grow up/mature/evolve and perhaps their interests will shift too?
I must say I am relieved that im not alone either.
Im not that interested in Skyrim for the same reasons im not interested in DA2. They market themselves as "RPG" when, at best they are Fantasy with RPG Elements.
The same thing is happening with both of them. They are removing elements to make it more accessible. Thats not a bad thing on its own, but they are removing elements and facets of game play that make the game an RPG. Bethesda has admitted to "streamlining" play to make the game msmoother and easier to play. Ive never heard that phrase uttered by a developer that didnt then release a dumbed down version of thier game.
Skyrim is looking like its going to be a hack and slash with RPG elements that is marketed as an RPG which is exactly what DA2 is. The jump from Morrowind to Oblivion hurt my confidence and the screenshots ive seen of the interface in Skyrim and what ive read about the skills, a complete lack of classes, and gameplay "Revisions" make me die inside even more.

The only reason I love the Mass Effect series so much is because its a story that is driven by characters. And the characters are amazingly done. Ive never been able to say the same about Dragon Age. Ive always found the characters somewhat formulaic and not very deep. In Dragon Age Alistair was the only one who really had anything interesting going on in his personal life/backstory. And Im not referring to being the Kings offspring. Everyone else was kind of...bleh...

Im 20 and a CRAVE good narrative and good craftsman ship in my games. Im the only one of my friends who wants story and quality over killing and eyecandy. Its not fun to be ridiculed (playfully) by friends for not liking "Everyones" favorite games.

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OK, you have links detailing this?
Search OCN for articles and read from Gaming news sites. Its all out there.
You may draw some different conclusions than I did, but thats up to you.
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Check out the debate going on here. Solid FACTS from both sides.

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-...rcial-2-a.html
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The demo seemed to be a bit unpolished on all fronts. I'm still going to play it for the story but personally I think The Witcher 2 and Risen 2 will take the crown in the gameplay area.

Skyrim also has a shot but after 2 mediocre action RPGs (Oblivion & Fallout 3) I don't trust Bethesda anymore.
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