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I'm kind of fuzzy on the differences between RTS and MMORG. Being that I've only ever played FPS and racing sims, how are those Types of games different, and how are the games above similar/different.

I'm looking to branch out and try some new games and types of games. Any players of said games care to weigh in?

Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by The_Cyb0rg;12539072 
I'm kind of fuzzy on the differences between RTS and MMORG. Being that I've only ever played FPS and racing sims, how are those Types of games different, and how are the games above similar/different.

I'm looking to branch out and try some new games and types of games. Any players of said games care to weigh in?

Thanks in advance.
They're completely diffent.

Massively multiplayer online role playing games (MMORPG) are games where you control 1 character (you can have several of them) and do various quests and kill stuff, often with friends or guild members. There's often a monthly fee. I don't know much about Rift specifically.

Real time strategy (RTS) games like Starcraft 2 are games where you collect resource, build up your base and make units to destroy the other side. Starcraft 2 has a really competitive online ladder, though if that doesn't appeal then there's team games for you and friends or custom maps (=mini mods) which can be practically anything (you can play anything from RPGs to fighting games to tower defense to poker-based games to 3rd person shooters).

Turn based strategy games like Civilization are sorta like RTS but are slower since you have an unlimited time to choose your actions carefully before ending the turn so that your opponents can play theirs. But they're also often more broad in terms of content, with diplomacy, trade, amount of research, etc and fighting isn't as big.

edit: there's a Rift beta (dunno if it's easy to get into it or not) and a SC2 demo (you can play a few missions or against the AI) but you can also ask someone to give you a SC2 trial (it lets you play the full game for 7 hours). Civilization 4 is very cheap (some say Civ 5 is simplified and prefer Civ4... I haven't tried the newest one personally).
Edited by thiru - 2/26/11 at 9:46pm
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Rift is out of beta and now into the headstart for pre-orders. It is comparable to World of Warcraft (and I would suggest World of Warcraft if you've never played MMO's..it is the holy grail still)
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Interesting question, suppose I'll chime in and try not to repost what others have already said. Too add, an MMO will focus the core of the game experience to revolve around some form of social or anti social interaction between the player base. Much of the "game world" or setting will be populated by avatars like your own, that are player driven, just like yours, and as such the "stick" of this style of game is that "your experience will vary" is very much in play due to the human saturation of the world.

To that end much of the content in this style game will be dependent on not only ones ability to progress the treadmill of advance but how you work or work against others on the same treadmill in a persistent world. ie. when you log off, the game is still going.

RTS, on the other hand, tends to focus more like a game of chess perhaps involving another player coop/enemy or not (ai focus), with the progression of the game being typically bounded to 'that' particular session or game. The progression path will be early game, normally resource/position requisition, expansion, extermination. A high speed 4x game as it were. Explore, Exploit, Expand, Exterminate. Once the game session is over, that game is concluded, and any subsequent games to follow will begin new, like a board game.

There are some limited examples (some of which still in development) that have attempted/are attempting to combine these elements together, normally with the single more traditional avatar or player character, replaced by a spread sheet with unit list, and one simply chooses a 'fight' in some sorta perpetual world in which to engage in. The RTS element then being the 4x, but with gains and or losses carrying over into your spreadsheet either expanding your units or diminishing them for the next session.

Going back and looking at the OP, a game like Civilization is more like the RTS in the 4x element, in fact, the 4x game is traditionally used to describe the turn based strategy game, in which like an RTS each session or new game, begins fresh, but the pace is limited to turns (making it much more a digital board game). The focus has less to do with unit positioning and more (traditionally) to do with large scale empire growth and management, with session length reaching into the multi-hour rather than 15-30 min RTS session. More often than not these types of games are played solo due to the time investment.

Another combination of the TBS and RTS genre is the Total War series, were the campaign map is turn based, but the combat may be resolved using the RTS direct unit control army vs. army rather than the computer sorting out a 'which unit wins' equation to determine conflict resolution. Like a lot of hybrids they have a tendency to sorta 'not do either one well' but in the case of the TW series, notably the upcoming Shogun 2, its a hybrid that is really done right making it a great in-betweener. Definitely recommend you D/L the demo and try it out for yourself.
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbEwooSmvzs[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjzdoif_yfY[/ame]

Different genres, mate. I'm not much of a MMORPG player, but a good RTS game is right up my alley.
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Thanks everyone for taking a minute to comment. Reps to all. It looks like I have some trials to test out to see which one(s) I want to splurge on. Thanks again for clearing up the differences in game play too.

(wish I could rep within taptalk frown.gif )

On a side note, would a mouse like the Razer Naga make said games easier/more fun/faster to play? Any Naga users care to comment?
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Well, I tried Star Craft and Rift in particular and came away with...Rift winning me over. Still learning the ins and outs as it is my first venture into this type of game.

In the meantime, any Rift players want a friend?
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I have to say that Civ V is one of the best games ever. I may be a long time Civ fan but man, that game rocks. If you want a faster game then I suggest Company of heroes. You can play the online version for free now.

If you have never played a MMORG then DON'T. They are like crack. First one is free then next thing you know 10 years have passes and your still living in your parents basement.
 
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Originally Posted by Kip69;12567071 
I have to say that Civ V is one of the best games ever. I may be a long time Civ fan but man, that game rocks. If you want a faster game then I suggest Company of heroes. You can play the online version for free now.

If you have never played a MMORG then DON'T. They are like crack. First one is free then next thing you know 10 years have passes and your still living in your parents basement.

Lmao. Well, I already have a house of my own so at least it'll be my own basement. rolleyes.gif
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