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I don't see the low quality parts or shoddy build on their recent stuff (or in a lot of the past stuff).
It's there.

iMac's use Su'scon capacitors which are labeled as some of the "bad" caps. iMac's also do have problems with cooling.
Last gen Macbooks did as well.

I'm not saying they're any worse than HP, Dell, or Acer (their big competition), but they are not as good as people claim when it comes to build quality.
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post #52 of 111
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Ditto.



I agree. Value added for me comes from quality parts and components, build quality, added software (iLife), styling and reliability. Personally I don't feel the 13" MBP's are too badly priced and I'll be buying a new one for my wife probably today to replace our aging white 13" C2D MBP. Easily the best notebook I've ever owned in terms of shear reliability. It's at least 5 years old and still runs like a champ. It just has trouble running Aperture along side other programs, so it's time for an update. The i5 should smoke the C2D there.

The 15" and up MBP's start getting a little ridiculous in price though. Aside from that, I dont think many other Apple products are overpriced. The ipods arent, the iPad isn't, the iPhone isn't....it's really just the Macbooks and upper end iMacs. I paid $1700 for my 27" iMac and given the size and resolution of the monitor, form factor and the other items I mentioned about, it's also the best desktop I've ever owned. It's nice having only a single wire on my desk (cable for iPhone).



I was an avid system builder for many years. I just grew out of it and got tired of it, so it's nice having a system with next to zero hassles.
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post #53 of 111
I replaced the TIM on my GF's Macbook air and reduced the temps over 10C at idle and about 15C at load.

There was easily 10X too much TIM. I'm not exaggerating. It was freaking ridiculous.
    
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post #54 of 111
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It's there.

iMac's use Su'scon capacitors which are labeled as some of the "bad" caps. iMac's also do have problems with cooling.
Last gen Macbooks did as well.

I'm not saying they're any worse than HP, Dell, or Acer (their big competition), but they are not as good as people claim when it comes to build quality.
I'm using an iMac right not (work computer). It has impressive cooling. I never see it above 50C at full load. We do scientific computing and it loads the CPU 100%, I've checked with the activity monitor.

However mine is a core 2 duo. I can't speak for the quad cores.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Mac fan. I just have to use them at work and I'm quite impressed with how cool and silent my iMac runs even at full load.
    
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I'm using an iMac right not (work computer). It has impressive cooling. I never see it above 50C at full load. We do scientific computing and it loads the CPU 100%, I've checked with the activity monitor.

However mine is a core 2 duo. I can't speak for the quad cores.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Mac fan. I just have to use them at work and I'm quite impressed with how cool and silent my iMac runs even at full load.
My College's ones they use for the video editing department have problems.

I just helped box up 3 to send off because they over heated. One of them had a melted casing as well.
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I would want nothing but perfection when I'm dropping $2000+ on a laptop.
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Oh noes, that screw it too tight, dam Apple!! Oh noes, they used too much TIM, this has never happened before, no other manufacturer has EVER used too much TIM oh noes...
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My College's ones they use for the video editing department have problems.

I just helped box up 3 to send off because they over heated. One of them had a melted casing as well.
Have you guys used SMC fan control? It's a great little fan control program for macs.
    
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Have you guys used SMC fan control? It's a great little fan control program for macs.
I could suggest it; but I doubt we'll get to use it.

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It's there.

iMac's use Su'scon capacitors which are labeled as some of the "bad" caps. iMac's also do have problems with cooling.
Last gen Macbooks did as well.

I'm not saying they're any worse than HP, Dell, or Acer (their big competition), but they are not as good as people claim when it comes to build quality.
Which models are you saying use these Su'scon caps? Do the latest models (09/10) use them?
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My College's ones they use for the video editing department have problems.

I just helped box up 3 to send off because they over heated. One of them had a melted casing as well.
Out of curiosity are they new or old models?


<<>>

I can't say I've ever had a problem with the cooling on my 09 27" (i7 @ 2.8) iMac even under a long gaming session. I've had the CPU max out at about 55-60C, the GPU at about 87c, and the hard drive at about 60c.
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