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AMD is still likely to pursue its niche in the market, namely offering a superior price-performance ratio to that of Intel.
Sometimes i wonder how you guys think
Six core 980x for about 900€ is enthusiasts part, but 8core Bulldozer is niche..
Oh, you guys confusing me a lot..

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I think it'll do well relative to SB, but more than likely SB will slightly edge it out and of course IB will probably significantly outperform AMD's flagships.
Think again, IB is die shrink with minor-or-none addtional tweaks

Therefore your thinking : BD > SB, but IB > BD makes no sense
    
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post #52 of 65
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Therefore your thinking : BD > SB, but IB > BD makes no sense
To me, that argument makes a lot of sense, as even Enhanced Bulldozer cores are going to be on 32nm...

I'm quite excited, just by the possibility Bulldozer is "better" than Sandy Bridge. Whether that is the case remains to be seen, but I'm quite confident it will be "good enough" for me, provided the price is right as well.
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post #53 of 65
I have always run mostly AMD systems and I was aware enough to research the products so that I was never stuck with any of the first iteration Phenom's that were such marginal performers. My bias would tend to be for AMD, not against.

That being said, I've seen an article on Softpedia (the same one you've all seen) that allegedly shows the performance of the Bulldozer and it looks like it might actually be legitimate. This not necessarily good news. The article appears to refer to benchmarks cherry-picked to not show the full performance of the i7 platform when compared to Phenom II or the Bulldozer.

It was showing the i7 950 almost neck-and-neck with the Phenom II 1100T and then the bulldozer roughly twice as fast as either of them. As far as I know, on stock, the i7 950 fairly consistently spanks any Phenom, so I'd have to guess the full capabilities of the i7 were not used by the benchmark.

If that bench is for real, that would make it a poor estimate for the performance of the Bulldozer, whether I want to believe it or not. I hope I'm wrong and that either bench was just made up or that the Bulldozer really does perform that consistently ahead of the i7 platform. It would be nice. I don't think it will be a cheap processor when it comes out. It might just turn out to be to consumer CPUs what the HD 5970 is/was to consumer GPUs (I could never afford the 5970).
Edited by Majestic_Lizard - 3/1/11 at 4:02pm
    
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Im amped about new Tech no matter who makes it or how it turns out.
If I could live forever it would be for no other reason than to see where computers and technology goes.
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I'm not hoping that Bulldozer is substantially higher in performance than current Phenom II X4's or X6's but at least competitive with Sandy Bridge.

At least at first. I'm sure after a year Bulldozer will be refined and really good. I just don't want to upgrade again.
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post #56 of 65
anyone know the probable launch cost of it? if its over $250 then i probaly wont even bother saving up for it.
Edited by luckypunk - 3/1/11 at 4:07pm
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LOL Bulldozer makes me laugh.

Only because it is all anyone who only uses AMD says.

"Wait for Bulldozer" -over a year ago lol
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post #58 of 65
I wasn't particularly excited to begin with. I'll welcome whatever competition they may offer, but I've grown tired of eagerly awaiting product launches.

I'm particularly disappointed with this 1055T rig of mine, and I'm going to wait to upgrade until Bulldozer is out so I can see which offers the best performance (Sandy Bridge or Bulldozer). The competition will also likely help prices so that's another reason why I'm waiting.
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post #59 of 65
not excited for it at all as i woun't get it since amd sucks! Intel FTW and this is comming from an ex amd owner of several chips
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I don't believe that is true, that data did not come from AMD.
seeing as socket AM3+ has an extra pin I don't see how they can bios update am3 boards to make it work. However if these MSI boards have the physical am3+ socket (like some pics i've seen suggest) then I think its possible that the new MSI boards could be bulldozer compatible. Just a matter of how well it plays with the 890 chipset.
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