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Hey OCN

I'm going to build another watercooled pc and have spent the last couple days checking prices and researching components. I have some parts already that I have scored some good deals on, but I am going to have to drop some more cash to get the rest of the stuff.

I'm sure to have some questions that I could use some help on.

This is where the fine, outstanding members of OCN (yeah- this means you )can help me.

First, I'll go over some of the things I already have.

Case- I have the Corsair 700d and the ABS canyon 595 waiting in the wings. Both were unopened in thier boxes until today. The 700d is HUGE, so I figure its the better case to WC (also it would be a shame to not watercool a 700d). I think I could fit a 360 rad and a 120 internally in the ABS 595, but I think I should use the Corsair.

CPU- I'm going AMD on this build and already have the 1100T 6-core.

Motherboard - MSI 790fx-gd70 I'm not sure about this one. There are some great reviews on this board, but no sata 3/usb 3 and I am not sure if it even supports the 1100T.

GPU- went green last time so I'm using two Sapphire 5870's in crossfire (2GB 6 eyefinity editions) along with a 9800 gt for physx. I'm not planning on watercooling the 9800.

RAM- 8GB of PNY 1600 DDR3

Storage- Planning on stealing one of my 80GB Intel x25-m out of my current rig and using it for the boot, then a 7200rpm 1TB (programs) and a 'green' 2TB (storage)

dvd drive

Thats the stuff I already have. I also have a couple new psu's around (good deals- sometimes I can't help myself) but they are 650 and 750. I dont think they are enough power for this build (3 gpu and 6 core cpu). I got some really nice deals on this stuff over the past few months.

Case - Corsair 700D (shell-shocker) $140
CPU - AMD 1100T (Tiger direct) $200
GPUs - 1 5870 was $260 (after mir) and got the second for $200 (shell-shocker, couldn't get the second rebate) Picked up 2 of the 9800 gt's for $100 from TD, so total for the 3 cards cost me $510
MB - picked up the board from Fry's for $60 after mir!
Ram- got the 8GB of pny 1600 ddr3 for $56 after rebate from T.D.

With the ssd, hdd, and dvd drive, I'm in for $1200 so far.

I'll post my buy list tomorrow and see if everything looks kosher with you all before I spend another $1300, but I already have some serious questions about the MSI board. Do I have to flash the bios to be able to use the new 6 core chips? Can this board even use the 1100T? It's not on the list of cpu's on MSI's site, but maybe it wasn't out when they wrote the list? It seems like it may be a nice overclocker according to a couple reviews I have read, but I dont want to fry the cpu or board if it's not compatible.



Does anyone know if this MSI 790FX-GD70 will work with the AMD 1100T after a bios flash???



I'll leave you with these couple questions as I am up waaaaayyy past my bedtime. Time flies when your shopping for computer parts online lol.

I'll post my buy list tomorrow and see if everything looks kosher with you all before I spend another $1300.
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Return that board. A lot of MSI boards caught fire, especially with OC-ed 4 or 6 core CPUs. Check AMD mobo section.
I would go with this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131655
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^^^

The GD70 uses a 4+1 phase power design, which is not exactly optimal for running a heavily overclocked X6. Also, 890FX chipset motherboards generally work better with hexacore chips as compared to 790FX chipset motherboards.

The GD70 would work with the chip, but might require a BIOS flash.
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ahhh..
Just what I didn't want to hear. I have read the newegg reviews about some of these boards catching on fire, and frying cpu's, but am sceptical about some newegg reviews and wonder if the people did something wrong (bent cpu pin or something). The professional reviews praise this board. It seems like every pro review on this board is positive and I really like how all 4 pci-e lanes run at full speed.

Think I should try it and see what happens? or spend a couple hundread bucks on a board with the 890 chipset with not as good pci-e lanes.. I would benefit from the sata 3.0 and usb 3.0, but at extra cost, then I would have this board laying around collecting dust. Also I would have to buy a c300 ssd too (just for the 3.0 support)

Thanks-
Edited by bob808 - 2/27/11 at 11:57am
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Anyway, heres the list of watercooling components that I was considering purchasing (along with a few other items). Your opinions and suggestions and help are greatly apprieciated, and rep will be given to helpful/useful/informative posts.


Sidewinder Computers-
I need two of these AquagratiX HD 5870 / HD 5850 G1/4 nickel plated GPU Waterblocks. I know that the EK blocks are slightly better but these should do the job for less $$, and I like how they look/perform for the price.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/aqcoaqforhd5.html



I need 12 (I think) of these Bitspower G1/4 True Silver 1/2in fittings. I use these in my current rig (see system below). I've found that when you use these, you dont need additives (pt nuke) to keep things clean. They're worth the extra cost imo. Sidewinder is the only place that has them in stock that I've seen.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big1trsi1fi.html





Jab-tech
You cant watercool without some fittings! Jab-tech seems to have the lowest price on fittings like these Bitspower Silver Shining 45 Degree Dual Rotary Extensions which I will probably need a few of.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Bitspower-Si...D-pr-4420.html



I'm still considering saving some bucks and getting this Rasa kit($190, the best price I've seen). Everything looks good and seems to be quite a money saver (I'm not sure about the quality of the pump).

I could buy the kit, keep the rad, and sell everything else, if any of you would be interested in buying everything but the rad for like $125 shipped- I could save a few bucks.... and so could you!

LET ME KNOW! (US 48 only)
http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-75...t-pr-4780.html



They also have a good price on PrimoFlex Pro LRT Tubing at a $1.60 per foot, although they are currently out of the color I want, and only have 1' of blue I'll be using 7/16" ID and 5/8" OD tubing over 1/2" fittings.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Primochill-Tube-c-319.html





Aquatuning.us
Just discovered this site and they have some good prices on certain stuff and stock some hard to find products.
twin connect for 5870, 1 slot spacing, to connect the 2 gpu waterblocks nice and clean.
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...t-spacing.html



Aquacomputer Cuplex Kryos XT -It's just beautiful
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...AM2--G1-4.html



For the resivoir I like the EK-D5 res top that attaches directly to the mcp655 pump.
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...ck-Acetal.html



I would get this longer tube to go with it - link -
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...150mm-Cyc.html



I need one of these for the top of the res-
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...dule-G1-4.html



GPU backplates - I dont think the blocks come with them so these look good for $5.
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...0--HD5850.html




I would like the EK backplates but dont know it they would work with the Auqagratix gpu blocks... I like how these cool the ram on the back of the 2GB cards. Do you guys know if they will work the the blocks?
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...el-plated.html




I like these also and they are priced right.
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...s---Black.html



This is the lowest price I could find on these 1850rpm GT's (I need 7 of 'em)
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...20x25mm--.html





Petra's Tech Shop
Nice price on XSPC radiators here- I need two XSPC RX240 Dual 120mm Radiators.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/xsrxdu12ra.html



I also need one XSPC RX360 Triple 120mm Radiator.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/xsrxtr12ra.html



Need a pump and dont trust those little 355s for some reason heh
http://www.petrastechshop.com/lad5smcin12v.html




Of course, I've got to give Newegg some love-

I need a chunky psu to power this baby, and leaning toward Corsairs AX1200. Even though I could probably get by with the hx1000, I've been lusting after this psu ever since it came out. I'm open to suggestions / reccomendations (for any and all of the components I have listed).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...014&Tpk=ax1200



HDD - WD 1TB black 6.0Gb/s It's $2 more that the sata 2 version.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-533-_-Product



Fan controller - Sunbeam PL-RS-6 Rheosmart 6 Fan Controller- This product looks pretty good, but again, open to suggestions.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-11-995-075-_-



Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. I'm hoping to get win 7 from my MS buddy for cheap but she's hard to get ahold of
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-758-_-Product




All of this adds up to about $1300 before shipping (not counting the rasa rx360 kit). What do you guys think? can anyone find them cheaper? What would you change? Is anyone interested in going in of the rasa kit with me (I just want the rad)?

Thanks!
Edited by bob808 - 3/1/11 at 3:13am
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I was thinking of running the loop like this.
RES-bottom rx240-bottom rx240 #2-CPU-RX360-GPU1-GPU2-RES

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I'm getting ready to flash the bios on the msi board to see it will be able to run with the 1100T. I'm formatting the USB flash drive now to use it as a boot drive for the bios flash.
Edited by bob808 - 2/27/11 at 10:29pm
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Flashed successfully to the latest bios released for the msi board. Now to swap the cpu with the 1100T. Wish me luck that I dont blow something up heh.

Edit: slapped in the 1100T and its working fine so far. No smoke- no caps exploding in flames Right now I am running only 4 GB of ram and a little HD 4550. I didn't wanna blow up the sapphire in case something bad happened. I'm gonna restart it now and put in the other 4 GB of ram.

Edit: I've got 8 gb pny ram installed running at default 1333 Mhz. Cpu at idle (stock) is 19C sitting on the mobo box (no case) with only the Dark Knight cpu cooler. Gonne see if I can get this ram to run at its rated speed/timings now.

Edit: I got the ram running at 1600Mhz 8-8-8-24-1T timings easy as pie. So far I'm felling good with this board. but we'll see when I get some juice flowing through it with the big gpu's. I think I will put it back in the box for now and wait to overclock it until I get it in a case with some active cooling. Its very quick already at egtting to the desktop after the bios splash screen.
Edited by bob808 - 2/27/11 at 10:21pm
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Hows the list above look? (bump)
I still haven't ordered anything cause I was kind of waiting for suggestions.
Edited by bob808 - 2/28/11 at 6:36pm
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Well everything looks pretty good you seem to no what your doing I will look it over again but wanted to comment on the gd70. I have a AMD 955 and I'm pushing 1.55 volts on this board and its been like this for over a year no fire no problems now this is no 6 core but still its pushing 1.55 volts in the bios fine. Also howdy to another from Washington
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