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I'm testing my old cards for stability with a P5Q Pro Turbo and an E5300.

I have another E5300 that I managed to get 100% stable @ 4.33Ghz on a 630i motherboard.

On this one.. I can't even get 3.33Ghz without frequent graphical stutters.

I have it set to 333Mhz FSB, 1.5 vCore (up from 1.3, 1.4), and nothing.. it's never stable.
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Your CPU probably have a FSB Wall at around 320 - 340MHz. Some E5xxx do more FSB. But 320 - 340FSB is the most common wall

Try out these,


JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 13
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 320
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-what your mem will do

DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :
All at AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
All Pullin's Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.3500 (Or what you need for your CPU at those speeds)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 2.0 (Or what your mem needs)
NB Voltage: 1.2
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO (Could try 400)
NB Clock Skew : AUTO (Could try 100)
Enhancement: Performance
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Thank you.

I tried 333x13 and I managed to get 5-hour ORTHOS stable... at 1.6v.

That really sucks about the FSB wall.

It's funny, actually. The only other motherboard I tested it on was a 630i, so I thought it was the board that was capped at 333Mhz.

Ends up it was the CPU all along? Oh well, 4.0Ghz is good enough.
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Thank you.

I tried 333x13 and I managed to get 5-hour ORTHOS stable... at 1.6v.

That really sucks about the FSB wall.

It's funny, actually. The only other motherboard I tested it on was a 630i, so I thought it was the board that was capped at 333Mhz.

Ends up it was the CPU all along? Oh well, 4.0Ghz is good enough.
That board is not capping it at 333MHz FSB. I have that board myself. And can run my Q9650 up to 460FSB stable. Dual cores on this board can go past 500MHz FSB.

But not those high multiplier/low FSB series CPU's. Like the one you got. Many years ago I had a E4300 on a Asus P5N-E SLI. This CPU also had a pretty low FSB wall. Think it was around 350FSB or something. The E6600 on the other hand could do 400FSB +...

Anyway, this is not a huge problem, as these CPU's have high multipliers.

As you say yourself, 4GHz is not bad...
    
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That board is not capping it at 333MHz FSB. I have that board myself. And can run my Q9650 up to 460FSB stable. Dual cores on this board can go past 500MHz FSB.

But not those high multiplier/low FSB series CPU's. Like the one you got. Many years ago I had a E4300 on a Asus P5N-E SLI. This CPU also had a pretty low FSB wall. Think it was around 350FSB or something. The E6600 on the other hand could do 400FSB +...

Anyway, this is not a huge problem, as these CPU's have high multipliers.

As you say yourself, 4GHz is not bad...
What about my G45 board? It's never stable, but the E7300 seems to cap at 375Mhz.

With that knowledge, everyone should be getting an E5300 and forget the E7300s.
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What about my G45 board? It's never stable, but the E7300 seems to cap at 375Mhz.

With that knowledge, everyone should be getting an E5300 and forget the E7300s.
If using cheap motherboards which are capped at lower FSB speeds, it would be a good idea to use CPU's with higher multipliers. Anyway, E5300 is slower clock for clock when compared to E7300. So...

Also, people who are into overclocking usually do not buy non-overclocker friendly motherboards.

I have a Asus P5QL-CM M-ATX G43 motherboard which was capped at 361FSB with a Q9400. Would not boot at anything past this. So only 2888MHz on the CPU. So I've gone back to my Gigabyte GA-P35 DS3R for my secondary system, which will do 450FSB with my Q9400. Resulting in 3.6GHz.

Edit: So I will never buy motherboards again, which I do not know has some overclocking potential. The P5QL-CM for my M-ATX build was a huge dissapointment. I had thought that since it was a G43, it would at least do 400FSB+. Many G31 motherboards do this. But I was wrong. As I've said, I reverted back to my full size ATX Gigabyte build because of this.
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If using cheap motherboards which are capped at lower FSB speeds, it would be a good idea to use CPU's with higher multipliers. Anyway, E5300 is slower clock for clock when compared to E7300. So...

Also, people who are into overclocking usually do not buy non-overclocker friendly motherboards.

I have a Asus P5QL-CM M-ATX G43 motherboard which was capped at 361FSB with a Q9400. Would not boot at anything past this. So only 2888MHz on the CPU. So I've gone back to my Gigabyte GA-P35 DS3R for my secondary system, which will do 450FSB with my Q9400. Resulting in 3.6GHz.

Edit: So I will never buy motherboards again, which I do not know has some overclocking potential. The P5QL-CM for my M-ATX build was a huge dissapointment. I had thought that since it was a G43, it would at least do 400FSB+. Many G31 motherboards do this. But I was wrong. As I've said, I reverted back to my full size ATX Gigabyte build because of this.
It's an ASUS G45 board. Was quite expensive.

I think I'm going to sell it on eBay for 75$ and get myself a P67-M
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