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post #61 of 70
your batch is not very promising.

Voltage Regulator Module is providing your cpu with power. when it overheats its not good. first x58 asrock boards had a problem with that. try to mount a small fan on vrm heatsink. check the temp of it in everest should not be ~90. lower then better anyway.
post #62 of 70
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Looking at at AIDA64 (which apparently is Everest's successor) I can't find a temp for VRM.
In SpeedFan, I get 3 "Temx":
Temp1: 34C at idle, 35C load
Temp2: 43C at idle ~62C load > This seems to coincide with the "Motherboard" (northbridge?) temp in AIDA64.
Temp3: 127C at idle ~70C load
This was @ 3.8GHz w/ 1.35v vcore. I ran Linx for 5m for the load temps.

Edit: I just tested @4GHz and monitored those temps. ~10m into Linx (and just before the reboot) Temp2 hit 70C: could this be the cause of my reboots?
Edited by adriangb - 3/9/11 at 1:33pm
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dunno how the aid64 is reading the asrock sensors but you could have an issue with overheating vrms. try to put something on them to blow air.
Edited by prznar1 - 3/9/11 at 2:00pm
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and where are they on my MB? Here is a good image if you need it to show me:
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they are under the heatsink with ASRock on it. heatsink is burning hot? or not?
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they are under the heatsink with ASRock on it. heatsink is burning hot? or not?
They'r definitely hot (they fell hotter than my heatsink, which must be 70-80C), I'm going to see if I can find a fever checker to test the temps (if it even works for temps >50C ) Couldn't find it, but I repurpused one of my heatsink fans so that it passes more air over the VRMs, and I'm going to test again.
On another note: would changing the TIM under those heatsinks for AS5 help (if it is the VRMs overheating)?

Edit: well, I went ahead and changed the the slimy piece of tofu that was under there for AS5. I ended up using the spread method: I didn't want any falling over the sides of the chips. I also changed the NB TIM (which was a dried up piece of gunk). I forgot to change the southbridge TIM, but it probably doesn't need it anyways. The only thing I'm worried about is that (since the AS5 application is obviously thinner than the slice of tofu/heatpad that was there, the heatsink isn't making good pressure on the chips.
Test: FAIL . It still reboots, even faster maybe.
Edited by adriangb - 3/9/11 at 4:59pm
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It's a no go... either I didn't change the TIM right or those things under the HS aren't causing the reboot/aren't the VRMs. I've determined the switch in voltages: @191x21 w/ 1.375v vcore, Linx errors after 20m. With 1.8125v vcore, it reboots after 10m.

EDIT: That tad bit more of voltage pushes the TPD just over 140W, if it makes a difference
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It didn't have thermal pads under the vrms? That is pretty weird to have thermal paste on them.
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It didn't have thermal pads under the vrms? That is pretty weird to have thermal paste on them.
It DID have thermal pads, whoever I replaced them with thermal paste, which is what worries me (because of the few mm difference).
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This is a bit late but I hope you still get this. I have the exact same setup as you and was stuck at 3.8/3.9 for the longest time. I've noticed a few things about the asrock x58 extreme.

-NB runs hot. I'd recommend a small fan on it.
-The board needs more vtt than any other.
-High vtt is also seemingly safe on the board.
-You cannot overclock in the same way like other people
-HT is difficult @ 4.0 or above.

I wouldn't touch PCIE voltage on this board, raising it does strange and always unstable things.

Honestly if you need HT then stay at 3.9 If you can live without it, then you can hit 4.4 with it off. I have a Megahalems with push pull and my 4.4ghz temps never hit 90 degrees after hours.

If you can live without HT then:

-190x21
-HT off
-All voltages on AUTO (Except DRAM if you need 1.65 like mine)
-Loose memory timings (In my case 9-9-9-27 .. rate @ 2)

This shows up as 1.280 in AIDA64. For some reason this is much more stable than similar manual values.

I think some of the parts in the mobo are cheaper and scale normally until 3.8ghz and then afterwards they need lots of voltage. When you are at 4.0ghz with vtt on "Auto" it is actually on 1.48v, and this is apparently normal.

My 4.2ghz HT off setup:

-200x21
-Vcore: 1.400 in bios (1.392 under load)
-Dram: 1.654
-Vtt: 1.480 (After windows 7 loads up, Asrock OC Tuner ramps this up to 1.550)
-All other voltage on AUTO

For some reason my motherboard can boot normally with 1.480 and 1.620 but not 1.550 which is what I need to be stable. Its software I know, hopefully others don't need it.
Edited by cinfidel - 6/24/11 at 4:16pm
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