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Thanks for the info! My MOBO is automatically set to ACHI for the SATA III ports, so I should be OK. But I will make sure.
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You don't need to flash the BIOS immediately unless the newer version is specific to your CPU; just make sure your machine boots with the original BIOS version.

Check in BIOS that the SSD is recognized and Win 7 will take it from there.

Important! Make an image of the freshly installed, updated to SP1, and activated Win 7, then install programs and whatnot. There are free imaging utilities - try the one from Seagate (by Acronis) for ex.
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This thread has everything you need to know:
http://www.overclock.net/ssd/929553-...l#post12215645
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Originally Posted by magogian View Post
Thanks for the info! My MOBO is automatically set to ACHI for the SATA III ports, so I should be OK. But I will make sure.
Looks good. But like someone else mentioned, read what the BIOS update actually does before flashing as it's always a risky procedure and can be avoided unless there's a fix, or a compatibility issue, etc. Every manufacturer will say this.

Also there are some nice guides here for SSD's. However read this:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2...rives-and.aspx

This will answer most questions. There are a lot of tweaks that people will say to do, but in the end the most important one is to disable defrag (which windows will do). Other than that it's all preference. Like the indexing service.. People are still saying turn it off due to the original first generation SSD's and the JMicron controller giving issues. But with the modern SSD's on the new controllers its fine to leave indexing on. Also if you have lots of ram, as stated above you can make your pagefile size smaller than what windows will auto set it at. 1 to 2GB is fine if you have 8 GB of ram. Yes you can disable it, and yes there are people that have never had an issue doing it. BUT there are programs out there that will not work correctly if there isn't one.

MS states this fact about page files and the SSD:

Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?

"Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well."
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Thanks everyone. I will take the advice regarding the BIOS. I won't flash to the newer version unless I am having some problems.
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Originally Posted by ar3f View Post
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Important! Make an image of the freshly installed, updated to SP1, and activated Win 7, then install programs and whatnot. There are free imaging utilities - try the one from Seagate (by Acronis) for ex.
Why is it important to do this step?
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Looks good. But like someone else mentioned, read what the BIOS update actually does before flashing as it's always a risky procedure and can be avoided unless there's a fix, or a compatibility issue, etc. Every manufacturer will say this.

Also there are some nice guides here for SSD's. However read this:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2...rives-and.aspx

This will answer most questions. There are a lot of tweaks that people will say to do, but in the end the most important one is to disable defrag (which windows will do). Other than that it's all preference. Like the indexing service.. People are still saying turn it off due to the original first generation SSD's and the JMicron controller giving issues. But with the modern SSD's on the new controllers its fine to leave indexing on. Also if you have lots of ram, as stated above you can make your pagefile size smaller than what windows will auto set it at. 1 to 2GB is fine if you have 8 GB of ram. Yes you can disable it, and yes there are people that have never had an issue doing it. BUT there are programs out there that will not work correctly if there isn't one.

MS states this fact about page files and the SSD:

Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?

"Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...e_convenience/

Have you a list of programs please that wont work without a pagefile, you stated earlier youv'e had many that dont work? I'd like to test some...as far as im aware if you don't have one and windows7 needs one it makes a temporary one, in ram I think, is that true?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moonmanas View Post
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...e_convenience/

Have you a list of programs please that wont work without a pagefile, you stated earlier youv'e had many that dont work? I'd like to test some...as far as im aware if you don't have one and windows7 needs one it makes a temporary one, in ram I think, is that true?
Yeah,

WoW for one. Though RIFT, Star Trek Online, and EvE. All MMO's though so all run for extended periods of time.

Also 3ds Max gave me issues, but after I bumped up the Page file to 1GB the issues went away, but man with no page file it squawked. Also Cinema 4D gave issues. There are also a handful of sound editing programs that I've used that give issues like Adobe Soundbooth. Granted I used these in college and a lot of folks never will, but my stance on the page file stands. It's best to leave it be, or lower it like I did. There ARE programs out there that either will refuse to run, or will crash, or give other errors if there is no page file. If you read the document that MS put out that I linked (one of a few) then you'll see that it's there for a reason or else MS would have disabled it if you have a SSD, but they chose not to.

Another issue that can arise with no page file is if you remote desktop and such or virtual machines.
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here's a snap of my SSD sitting in my S XPS 1645.



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TRIM works great.
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