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So I decided to try Linux once again, but I wanted to try new(ish). So I got Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu.

So it's installed and updating right now, but I have 1 issue. My mouse does not work. I can click on the desktop, and works there, but once it goes into a window, it doesn't highlight what it's over, or accepts clicks. Quite infuriating.

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Edited by Bassdoken - 2/28/11 at 8:27pm
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Alright, well, I've given up any hope I had with Linux. This **** never works. I know it's not directly the people who made Linux or whatever, but AMD's fault for not putting out working drivers, but this **** is ridiculous.

I tried the proprietary 11.2 drivers, and guess what? Didn't work. Even though they're for the HD 6000 series and Linux. I had it somewhat working previously on Ubuntu, but it was buggy as hell so I decided to get rid of it.

So unless anyone has some sort of miracle fix for the god damn drivers, I'm done with Linux until they get their **** together.


And I followed the guide by Melcar to install drivers. That process went over smoothly, but when I finally boot up afterwards, it was extremely screwed up. I don't really know how to describe it through text, but if I was sensitive to flashing lights, I probably would have had a seizure.
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Well Linux isn't actually anything beyond the kernel. If you got a problem with video drivers it is AMD's fault. I'm saddened to hear that this is still a problem. I thought by now they would have their act together.

The mouse thing I've only come close to having a similar problem when I screwed up the sensitivity settings. So I don't know exactly what possibly could have brought that on.
     
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Well Linux isn't actually anything beyond the kernel. If you got a problem with video drivers it is AMD's fault. I'm saddened to hear that this is still a problem. I thought by now they would have their act together.

The mouse thing I've only come close to having a similar problem when I screwed up the sensitivity settings. So I don't know exactly what possibly could have brought that on.

It's pathetic. You think for the cards being out for how long now, and they don't have working proprietary drivers? These are reasons people prefer Nvidia to AMD, because the drivers work. I can't wait until I get a 560, because that's my next upgrade. I actually want to use Linux instead of being in an ugly as hell session. 1280x1024 looks god-awful on a 1920x1080 display.

The mouse was easy, really. A quick googling says that I just have to make an edit to xorg.conf, but I can't do that if it won't really work. But you can just hit the mode button, and that isn't very reliable (have to hit it several times) and isn't in the least bit convenient.
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There's been plenty of discussion as to what's with AMD on the GPU drivers. Considering how big Linux potentially will become do to various governments switching education systems and more over to it I can't fathom their thinking on letting these driver issues continue. That's leaving Intel and Nvidia a market to themselves and no business should be stupid enough to allow that.

Never had a xorg to mouse issue though so I can't comment on that one.
     
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all my experience with kubuntu have been bad, it is why i typically install ubuntu, and then install kde.

ubuntu is heavily optimized for gnome's use, and kubuntu is essentially a "hack" on ubuntu.

i can't speak for ati's drivers, they've traditionally always been horrible in linux, its usually a hit or miss on them.

did you try the opensource ati drivers? i've heard they have improved greatly, but their performance is greatly reduced compared to the flgrx when you get them running correctly.

did you try the flgrx drivers in jockey or did you go to ati's site to grab them? if all else fails give the ones in jockey a go (jockey is the thing that pops up that says you have proprietary drivers ready to install, not sure if it is in kubunut.)
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all my experience with kubuntu have been bad, it is why i typically install ubuntu, and then install kde.

ubuntu is heavily optimized for gnome's use, and kubuntu is essentially a "hack" on ubuntu.

i can't speak for ati's drivers, they've traditionally always been horrible in linux, its usually a hit or miss on them.

did you try the opensource ati drivers? i've heard they have improved greatly, but their performance is greatly reduced compared to the flgrx when you get them running correctly.

did you try the flgrx drivers in jockey or did you go to ati's site to grab them? if all else fails give the ones in jockey a go (jockey is the thing that pops up that says you have proprietary drivers ready to install, not sure if it is in kubunut.)

I guess I could try that. Because I like the look of KDE much more than Gnome. Are there any other KDE based distros I could try?

I tried the fglrx drivers from Jockey and from AMD's site. Same issue. Where would I get the open source drivers from? I just want Linux to work at 1080p.
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slackware is kde based but a bit more involved than the buntus. Fedora and opensuse both have KDE spins to look at. I'd wait on opensuse for about 10 days since they'll have a new release coming out.

But to show you (I guess) how screwy code can be on different configurations; I've had nothing but failures with every install of default Ubuntu (not UNR) and Kubuntu has been there to save me from it. I will tell you I hate how Gnome based a very large majority of programs are.
     
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So which should I go with?
Ubuntu, then switch it to KDE, or just Kubuntu and hope the drivers work?
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DEBIAN!!!!!

I had to say something! =P

And @Rookie's comment about the popularity. You forgot ChromeOS, which is based off of Linux. Honestly, if they wanted to start using hardware accelerated graphics for their hardware they would have an obvious choice!

Nvidia seems to have it's stuff together when it comes to drivers, it's the one reason why I won't go with AMD until they have consecutive driver support for a long enough time to say it's reliable. I don't care what some of the people on here say, blaming devs for being biased towards Nvidia. It's no excuse, AMD should get it together. Though from what I've seen it's much better than what ATi was, at least you get drivers on a solid release schedule. =P

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http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso

They have a KDE made CD, it gets everything up and running. If you use the experimental repo's afterwards you can get KDE to at least 4.5.1 (or is it 4.5.3? I might have borrowed Ubuntu stuff to get 4.5.3). You can also use my guide to build KDE, which if you follow it correctly and get all the dev packages it's really just building the modules in the right order. My kdesrc-buildrc has everything set up, you would just need dev packages. Unfortunately I didn't write down every dev package it asked me for, mainly because I already had a bunch so I didn't know if there were some that I had and people would need (didn't want complains about "you didn't say this"). Anyways, I've got KDE 4.6 up and running stable on Debian. =) I <3 my debian.
Edited by mushroomboy - 2/27/11 at 9:00pm
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