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This.

Sounds like you didn't have enough water in the loop and too much air. Eventually that would kill the pump.
Im still not clear how anyone is not understanding what I'm saying: The system had PLENTY of water. The res was full and I bled the system perfectly. Are the people here that are saying 'not enough water in loop' not reading the part about it being the res/pump combo from rasa, and the subsequent statements that I've made in regards to the system being full of water and me bleeding it properly and leak testing it properly and having no water change. The pump, which is buried in the res, which is full of water, is not pumping water anymore. How can the pump be starved for water if its full on water in the res from which it sucks water from?

How can the res have air in it that the pump sucked in, if, again, the pump is buried under water and has adequate access to the water supply and has no access to air that would be in the top of the res - if anywhere at all?
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I don't have a dog in this fight. I haven't even done my first WC system yet and am trying to learn.

However, lynxxyarly, if there is now no water in your tubes, and the res was full before the problem, where did the water that was in the tubes go?

I'm just trying to figure this out myself and why others are saying what they are.

Sorry for your problem, lynxxyarly.

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I don't have a dog in this fight. I haven't even done my first WC system yet and am trying to learn.

However, lynxxyarly, if there is now no water in your tubes, and the res was full before the problem, where did the water that was in the tubes go?

I'm just trying to figure this out myself and why others are saying what they are.

Sorry for your problem, lynxxyarly.

Tim
I'm assuming the water pooled into the outlet hose/last bit of the res. When I pulled the bottom hose of my system off that would have been the outlet, water just gushed out and emptied the res/rad. The hose that didnt have any water in it was the hose going from the res to the rad, which was a 45 degree angle up to the top of the case from the 5.25inch bays.

I thought the lack of water in the aforementioned hose was a clear indicator of the lack of pump workage, and as such I'm not sure why anyone was even focusing on that. I was just wondering if anyone knew the warranty info on said product because I was unable to locate it.

That or if anyone had some kind of trick to get a dead pump working again.
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I'm assuming the water pooled into the outlet hose/last bit of the res. When I pulled the bottom hose of my system off that would have been the outlet, water just gushed out and emptied the res/rad. The hose that didnt have any water in it was the hose going from the res to the rad, which was a 45 degree angle up to the top of the case from the 5.25inch bays.

I thought the lack of water in the aforementioned hose was a clear indicator of the lack of pump workage, and as such I'm not sure why anyone was even focusing on that. I was just wondering if anyone knew the warranty info on said product because I was unable to locate it.

That or if anyone had some kind of trick to get a dead pump working again.
What you are saying doesnt make sense.... the lets say the res is 100% full the tubes and blocks and rads are all 100% full too so its impossible for there to be water in the res and have there be none in the tubes.....
    
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The best thing i can honsetly say here is something isnt right. If the lines were full with water and the rez and pump/resevior was filled, and ur saying now the tubes are empty the water had to go somewhere. either way, XSPC does have a pretty good RMA service because i have used it myself. Just go to there website and fill out there contact info and tell them ur prob and they will email u back pretty quick with either A how to fix it or B what to do to get a new one. Only reason i know cause i had a leaking res/pump combo and they were pretty quick in getting me a new one.
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Exactly! If you had enough water in the loop, you wouldn't see any big movement at all because regardless or not there would be the same amount of water in the tubes, radiator, etc.
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I'm assuming the water pooled into the outlet hose/last bit of the res. When I pulled the bottom hose of my system off that would have been the outlet, water just gushed out and emptied the res/rad. The hose that didnt have any water in it was the hose going from the res to the rad, which was a 45 degree angle up to the top of the case from the 5.25inch bays.

I thought the lack of water in the aforementioned hose was a clear indicator of the lack of pump workage, and as such I'm not sure why anyone was even focusing on that. I was just wondering if anyone knew the warranty info on said product because I was unable to locate it.

That or if anyone had some kind of trick to get a dead pump working again.
You have it the wrong way, my friend. Lack of water causes pump failure. Pump failure does not cause a stretch of your loop to go dry. I mean this in the friendliest way - we are all just trying to help.

But alas, you are looking for warranty info - call the vendor you bought it from. I'm sure they will be happy to help.
    
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You should not have any air in your lines, even with the pump off. That's like saying you have to bleed your system every time the pump is shut off, which is not true. In a properly bled loop, the system should remain without air even without the pump running, and you should barely even be able to tell the water is pumping at all, save for the water sloshing around in your res. The system was not fully bled and the excess air killed the pump over time, simple as that.

Did you make sure to tilt the case or remove/tilt your loop while bleeding to ensure all air pockets were released?
     
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You should not have any air in your lines, even with the pump off. That's like saying you have to bleed your system every time the pump is shut off, which is not true. In a properly bled loop, the system should remain without air even without the pump running, and you should barely even be able to tell the water is pumping at all, save for the water sloshing around in your res. The system was not fully bled and the excess air killed the pump over time, simple as that.

Did you make sure to tilt the case or remove/tilt your loop while bleeding to ensure all air pockets were released?
I did, indeed do my very level best to make sure the air was all out of the system. I shaked and tilted and refilled the res like 5-6 times and I watched air bubbles come out. I followed all guides on here and I even did a full water cooling system for a buddy recently and I feel pretty confident in my ability to get the air out. I practically tipped the case over 90 degrees from vertical to horizontal to get all the air out. I do know that my res wasn't like filled to the brim with water, I had a slight amount of space that was now filled to capacity when I opened it up to examine it.

So I thought the issue was that the pump was pumping water, then the pump stopped, and I assume the flow doesn't instantly stop (I could be wrong), but as a result of that the water was pushed through some of the loop and then there wasnt any more water being pushed through so the tube closest to the pump would be dry. I don't know for sure, however.

Just a very stressful time and I apologize if I got a little edgy here. Was not intending for that to be my reasons for posting. Thanks for the recommendation and the reassurance on the replacement process that xspc could possibly help me with, however.
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Originally Posted by lynxxyarly View Post
I did, indeed do my very level best to make sure the air was all out of the system. I shaked and tilted and refilled the res like 5-6 times and I watched air bubbles come out. I followed all guides on here and I even did a full water cooling system for a buddy recently and I feel pretty confident in my ability to get the air out. I practically tipped the case over 90 degrees from vertical to horizontal to get all the air out. I do know that my res wasn't like filled to the brim with water, I had a slight amount of space that was now filled to capacity when I opened it up to examine it.

So I thought the issue was that the pump was pumping water, then the pump stopped, and I assume the flow doesn't instantly stop (I could be wrong), but as a result of that the water was pushed through some of the loop and then there wasnt any more water being pushed through so the tube closest to the pump would be dry. I don't know for sure, however.

Just a very stressful time and I apologize if I got a little edgy here. Was not intending for that to be my reasons for posting. Thanks for the recommendation and the reassurance on the replacement process that xspc could possibly help me with, however.
just a tip for ya i would leave out the part where you said the tubes were empty...
    
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