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Hey op look on the bright side. If xspc doesn't accept your rma. Sounds like a good excuse to upgrade to mcp355/35x..
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Try that sometime, I dare ya. Boil water??

Your cpu and system will heat up and shutdown when it hits thermal overload. Disaster averted, er should I say boil over lol.
not if you have thermal protections disabled in bios?
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Try that sometime, I dare ya. Boil water??

Your cpu and system will heat up and shutdown when it hits thermal overload. Disaster averted, er should I say boil over lol.
Water boils at 100c, thermal protection may not even kick in till 110c. Pretty sure 110>100. The OP even states that his BIOS read the CPU at 115c.

Just sayin'.

(In case you're referring to pressure, many folks keep their reservoir caps loose to allow air to escape, which could prevent tubing from exploding in the case of high pressure from gas exchange.)
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Phew! Glad i didn't get this.
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Water boils at 100c, thermal protection may not even kick in till 110c. Pretty sure 110>100. The OP even states that his BIOS read the CPU at 115c.

Just sayin'.

(In case you're referring to pressure, many folks keep their reservoir caps loose to allow air to escape, which could prevent tubing from exploding in the case of high pressure from gas exchange.)
Sure some boil over will happen, but to boil over a foot or more of tubing like OP describes. Really?

Btw isn't thermal protection on Intel chips non-defeatable?
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Back in the days when ThermalTake water cooling kits were popular (back in 2005 lol), I had a pump die on me, and the tubing from the output of the pump to the block did indeed go dry. This was caused by the CPU evaporating the water that was sitting in the block, and as the pump was no longer operating, gravity kept the water in the reservoir, instead of moving through the CPU block.

Not saying that this is the case, but I wouldn't rule out the pump dying and his processor cooking the water into steam. I had lots of water droplets in my reservoir as the water found it's way back to the high point of my system as steam, and returned to it's liquid state. I suppose it all depends on how the loop is constructed, and how gravity might affect the flow without a pump.
That's actually a good point, and I hadn't thought of that. The hose that was empty was the intake to the cpu. That specific hose was only about 6 inches long maybe? I can't recall now.

I unfortunately do not have pictures of my recent setup and I can't take any now because I've already ripped it all out.

Hopefully xspc doesn't give me any trouble.
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Hey op look on the bright side. If xspc doesn't accept your rma. Sounds like a good excuse to upgrade to mcp355/35x..
that requires money, of which I am definitely short on. Just got laid off recently
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I believe I know what happened, an unfortunate mistake that killed the pump (R.I.P.) If the res is below the cpu, the cpu is the highest part of the loop and rad. If he sealed the res with it being lower then the cpu, any and all air would make it's way into the pump and promplty disable it with air instead of water. Hence making the tubing dry since the water was replaced by said air. The res or rad should always be above the cpu clock and pump.
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Sure some boil over will happen, but to boil over a foot or more of tubing like OP describes. Really?

Btw isn't thermal protection on Intel chips non-defeatable?
My experience was actually on an old AMD FX-57 which didn't have quite the protection that Intel offers today. I did do some research though, and it looks like the "THERMTRIP" doesn't kick in till the silicon reaches 135°c! This part is integral to the CPU and is not defeatable.

For those interested, here's the article I found while digging around Intel's website looking for more information:
http://www.overclockers.com/the-inte...hermal-diodes/
It's a little old, and some of the information is dated, but Intel's site really doesn't like to give exact numbers regarding when THERMTRIP is activated due to the "catastrophic temperature limit" for the OP's specific CPU.

I did find the datasheet for the new SB stuff though.
http://download.intel.com/design/pro...hts/324641.pdf

Looks like they lowered it to 130°c which is still quite hot, and while throttling should prevent this, I can see a total cataclysmic failure of a cooling system allowing this before the BSOD/Shutdown sequence starts. Just thought I'd add this to the overwhelming knowledgebase that OCN has already.
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xspc emailed me today. Told me to give me my address and they'll ship a new pump/res out to me.

Pretty decent PR if I actually receive it.
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