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Conclusion and Future Plans:

I'm quite pleased with the outcome. It's very fast and very quiet. However, I'm an engineer at heart, so I have a compulsion to tinker. Nothing is ever completely finished.

During stress testing, it became clear to me that the HR-02 is not going to cut it for OC'ing during the summer. I plan to watercool this rig sometime in the next couple of months. I'm determined to fit a 420 rad inside at the top. Length won't be an issue, but depending on the width of the rad, I may have to cut into the top structural rails of the case a little. I may even go ahead and have new rails fabricated so that I don't compromise the structural integrity of the case.

I can already tell that removing and cleaning all of those little fan filters is going to be a pain. I plan to have a single custom front grille made to cover the bottom 10 bays. It'll be hinged so that I don't have to remove anything to get the filter out.

At the same time I get the front grille done, I'm going to replace the 3x120mm fans with 3x140mm fans. This will obviously take up ten bays instead of nine, but I only need the top two bays for the BD drive and fan controller.

Cabling needs some serious work. As I said before, the fully-modular Seasonic PSU is going to be a big help here. The ATX 12V cable definitely needs to be longer; right now it isn't long enough to go behind the MB tray. I'll also turn the HDD around to hide its cables.

I wasn't originally planning to use a silver case, but I think I'll have some fun with this. I think I might try silver cable sleeving, silver tubing, black Molex/Tyco connectors, and black compression fittings. Or maybe I could go all black on the interior. What do you think?

Anyway, thanks for watching! Stay tuned for more.
Edited by valvehead - 2/27/11 at 10:24pm
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Damn, nice cases!
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Love those Lian cases!

Thanks for sharing.
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Very nice
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post #15 of 22
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Case Observations:

Thanks guys!

Some notes on the two cases:
  • In spite of what the specs say on Lian Li's site, both the A77 and A77F have the same outer dimensions.
  • In fact the A77's front bezel fits on the A77F, but not vice versa since the A77 needs the cutout for the fan controller display.
  • I think the tops are interchangeable, but I haven't tried.
  • The side doors are not interchangeable because bottom mount is different.
  • The front HDD bays are universal and should fit any case. However, the top rear HDD bay in the A77 has a different style of mounting.
  • The motherboard tray on the A77 sits much lower than the A77F. This was my main reason for the case swap. The A77 has about 112mm from the top of the tray to the roof, while the A77F has only 51mm. That's a huge difference!

Let me know if you guys want me to give you any other comparisons.

I like the ODD bezel that I added on, but the spring that lifts the flap is a little stronger than it needs to be. The drive has no trouble opening and closing, but the bezel flap is pushing up on the tray a little when it is open.

The faceplate on the Lamptron FC5v2 doesn't quite match the case perfectly. It's a little shinier, and the brushing orientation is horizontal instead of vertical. It still looks very good though. I might get a blank Lian Li bay cover to replace the faceplate. That would also allow me to put some controls on there for the LCD color and temp/voltage selections (currently set by jumpers on the back).
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I believe that you can mount a 280 rad in the top of the A77F with a tiny bit of room to spare. Someone also mounted a 360 in the front of it. I think that's where I may go with mine.

However, i've been looking for the optional top for the A77F, the one that has 3x120mm cutouts...I haven't been able to find a US store that stocks it though.
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Looking good man! I wish I had a sweet Lian Li case but I'm stuck with my old HAF 932 for now.
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Minor Update:

I just swapped out the UD7 B2 for the B3. It was quite a painless process.

After firing up the new B3, I flashed both the main and backup BIOS with F2. Then I flashed the main BIOS with F3h. I applied some of the previous settings I used on the B2 and booted into Windows.

Windows fired right up. It took a few minutes and a couple of reboots to configure the drivers for the new hardware. I then applied the rest of my OC settings and tested for stability. All is well.

After a couple hours of running, Windows asked to be reactivated. I don't know why it waited that long, but what the hey. I crossed my fingers and tried the online activation. All it took was about two seconds. No need for a call to Microsoft. thumb.gif


Well, summer is rapidly approaching here, and my workroom is starting to get toasty. I decided to back my OC down to 4.5 GHz for the time being.

I still plan to go with watercooling soon. That is the main reason why I tracked down this older A77 case. As I wait for my tax refund, I've got some time to decide if I want to blow it on this or Cadsoft Eagle (that I've been wanting for quite some time). Decisions. Decisions.

EDIT:
The two Thermalight X-Silent 140mm fans that I put in my black A77F (home server) have been running non-stop in horizontal position in the top of the case for two straight months. In spite of several claims on this and other fora, there is no sign of any "ticking" sounds from the fans. I guess those unfortunate people either received defective fans or the design was changed.
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Under Water!:

Silent Screamer II is now watercooled! It's just in time for summer since it gets pretty warm up here in my workroom this time of year.



The Parts:
CPU block: EK Supereme HF Acetal/Copper
Rad: EK CoolStream Rad XTC 420 (3x140mm)
Fans: 3x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPRO PK-3 140mm
Pump: Swiftech MCP350
Pump top: EK DDC X-Top V2
Res: EK Multioption X2 Res 150 Basic
Tubing: Tygon silver 0.5" ID 0.75" OD
Fittings: various Bitspower black compression fittings
Quick release: Koolance V3N
Biocide: Silver kill coil
Coolant: Distilled water

Since I have a silver case and a black motherboard, I thought I would continue that silver/black theme with the watercooling parts.




The Assembly:

Yes, I know that the CPU block is rotated 180 degrees. As far as I know the block is symmetrical from top to bottom, and orientation doesn't matter as long as the port closest to the center is used as the inlet. I rotated it because the fittings would run into each other otherwise:



It's not the best location for the res, but I was just making use of existing holes. I plan to move it closer to the drive bays later on. I originally had the little extension tube connected to the inlet, but the jet it made caused the air up top to get pushed down into the water:



The rad fitting situation isn't the best right now. The tubing fits through the holes in that large L-bracket, but the resulting angle of the tubing is awkward. I have to forgo the angled compression fittings for now:




The rad fits between the drive bays just fine, but it's just 1.5mm too wide to fit between the top rails. So instead of worrying about modifying the top rails, I simply moved the fans to the top for pull instead of push:



Nothing special about the pump placement. It's just sitting on top of the supplied pad. I'll decide exactly where to mount it based on where I end up moving the res:



All done:

Well, just the CPU so far. The 420 rad is definitely overkill right now, but I plan to upgrade my GTS250 to at least a GTX570 sometime. It's not worth putting the GTS250 in the loop since a GPU block would probably cost more than the card is worth. I don't think there's a specific block for it anyway.



Bleeding wasn't too bad, and there are no leaks. Once I figured out that the extension tube inside the res was unnecessary, it ran smoothly. I just had to tilt the case a few times in each direction to dislodge the trapped air inside the loop. It's really quiet now.

I haven't done any extensive testing yet, but I can already tell that this is a huge improvement over the Thermalright HR-02. A short Prime95 small FFTs run at 4.5 GHz reached a max of 65C. It previously hit over 80C on air. I think it can do better though. I'll try reseating the block at some point.



As you can see there is still much work to be done. The wiring is a mess (the right side of the computer looks like electronic vomit). I plan to sleeve everything with silver sleeving and silver heat shrink with black connectors to match the silver tubing and black fittings I already have.

However, cable management is going to have to wait. The more pressing matter is the various case mods that need to be done:
  1. Top - It's currently running with the top removed. I'm working out how I want to cut out the top for the rad fans. Rather than do a large cutout and use a grille on top, I figure I will try cutting the grille design directly into the top for a clean look. I'll have it cut with either laser or water jet. I need to plan this carefully since I have been unable to find a replacement silver top for this case. I can't afford to screw this up.
  2. Rear L-bracket - This has to go. There was originally a hard drive bay up there (such an odd location). Now it's getting in the way of the tubing. It's held in with rivets, which is why I haven't touched it yet.
  3. Front grille - All of those individual bay covers look kinda cool, but removing each one individually to clean the filters is a pain. Instead I'm going make a single grille that covers the bottom 9 or 10 bays. It'll be hinged at the bottom so that I can pull it open and remove and clean a single large filter. I also plan to have hot-swap bays behind the gille. I'm already working on the design for the front and top grilles.
  4. Cable management - I need to make several oblong holes in the motherboard tray.


That's it for now. More to come.
Edited by valvehead - 1/2/13 at 4:20pm
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i7 2600K Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Intel HD3000 EVGA GTX980 
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Corsair Vengeance Western Digital Caviar Black WD1600JD Western Digital WD20EARS (2), WD20EARX (1), WD2... Thermalright HR-02 
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Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS x64 Seasonic X760 Lian Li PC-A77F 
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Monochrome
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Corsair DDR4 32GB Samsung 950 Pro NVME Windows 10 Pro x64 
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i7 2600K @4.5GHz Gigabyte P67A-UD7 B3 EVGA GTX 780 Ti SC 3GB EVGA GTX 780 Ti SC 3GB 
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2x4GB Super Talent DDR3-1600 CL9 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS LiteON iHBS212 EK Supreme HF Copper/Acetal 
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4x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PLPS 120mm PW... Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 150 Aquacomputer Flow Rate Sensor "High Flow USB" G1/4 Bitspower black compression fittings 
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Tygon silver tubing 0.5" ID 0.75" OD 2x Watercool HEATKILLER® GPU-X³ GTX TITAN/780/7... Alphacool HF D5 acetal pump top Aquacomputer D5 pump (USB/Aquabus) 
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EK CoolStream XTC 420 6x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PK-PS 140mm P... Windows 7 x64 Pro Arch Linux x64 
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Hewlett Packard LP2475W Ducky Shine II Seasonic X750 Lian Li PC-A77A Silver 
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Logitech MX Revolution RME Fireface 800 Dynaudio BM6A 
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i7 2600K Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Intel HD3000 EVGA GTX980 
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Corsair Vengeance Western Digital Caviar Black WD1600JD Western Digital WD20EARS (2), WD20EARX (1), WD2... Thermalright HR-02 
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Looks great! You, my good man, has great taste! Now hide that pump

edit: That ram kit looks fantastic on that board
Edited by DoctorNick - 5/21/11 at 4:14pm
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Corsiar Vengeance Pro 1866 - 2x8GB Samsung 840 EVO 250GB Plextor M3 Pro 128GB Western Digital Red 3TB 
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CPU: Corsair H100 w/ 2x GT AP-15's fans Windows 8.1 Pro w/ Start is Back BenQ XL2420T Samsung XL2730 
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Duckie Shine 2 - MX Red Corsair AX750 Fractal Design - Arc Midi R2 Zowie AM 
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Steelseries QCK Mass Fiio E09K + Beyer Dynamic DT-770 pro's + Antli... Speakers: Argon 7460  
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i5 3210m@2.5Ghz ~3.1Ghz Turbo Lenovo HM77 GT 610m Kingston value pc3-12800 cl11 
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Xeon E3-1270V3 GA-Z87X-UD4H Gigabyte GTX 780 Windforce OC R2 Gigabyte GTX 780 Windforce OC R2 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsiar Vengeance Pro 1866 - 2x8GB Samsung 840 EVO 250GB Plextor M3 Pro 128GB Western Digital Red 3TB 
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CPU: Corsair H100 w/ 2x GT AP-15's fans Windows 8.1 Pro w/ Start is Back BenQ XL2420T Samsung XL2730 
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Duckie Shine 2 - MX Red Corsair AX750 Fractal Design - Arc Midi R2 Zowie AM 
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Steelseries QCK Mass Fiio E09K + Beyer Dynamic DT-770 pro's + Antli... Speakers: Argon 7460  
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i5 3210m@2.5Ghz ~3.1Ghz Turbo Lenovo HM77 GT 610m Kingston value pc3-12800 cl11 
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