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Originally Posted by Jinto;12552417 
I need to clear something up. Was the term "Lightpeak" only ever just a code name and now Intel is calling it "Thunderbolt". Or is the term "Thunderbolt" just another silly Apple nick naming scheme similar to "Facetime". Because if it's official name is still "Lightpeak" then the last thing we need is a bunch of idiots going around calling it "Thunderbolt" simply because Apple calls it so.

Lightpeak was the development name for the project. Lightpeak emphasizes the fiber optic component of the project, and now that Intel took that out for cost reasons and replaced the lines with copper the name didn't work, so we have "Thunderbolt" instead.
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post #12 of 32
Name the next one Superman and we'll be all happy.

Retard names....
post #13 of 32
usb 3.0 has alot of potential right now, initially it was fast but not as fast as it claimed. thats primarily because whan usb 3.0 was released there was no usb 3.0 flash controllers. it was an adapted sata controller.

a 120MB/s 32gb usb 3.0 drive is only months away. thats a huge jump from even the fastest usb 2.0 which is around 45MB/s.
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usb 3.0 has alot of potential right now, initially it was fast but not as fast as it claimed. thats primarily because whan usb 3.0 was released there was no usb 3.0 flash controllers. it was an adapted sata controller.

a 120MB/s 32gb usb 3.0 drive is only months away. thats a huge jump from even the fastest usb 2.0 which is around 45MB/s.
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The reason this is great for device manufacturers is that they can make very small devices and only "need" one port for interconnectivity.

The bad news is that the consumer will have to handle the inconvenience of adapters...
    
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Just like we thought 4 mb of RAM is sufficient or we will never need storage space bigger than a floppy drive or 64-bit is out of the question because we will never need to allocate more the 4GB of RAM space or programs will never need more than 1 core? Why do we keep improving the speeds of USB?

Devices may just saturate the bandwidth some day as we progress through technology. External SSD's in the future anyone?

I do think it's stupid that Intel is licensing it though. I understand they probably wants to make money off something they developed but it's not going to become popular if none of the other companies will want to pay the fees. They'll just say "eh, we'll make do with USB 4.0, kthxbai".

Didn't Apple try to promote Firewire devices too when it first came out?
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post #17 of 32
We have USB 3.0 which is already faster than any external peripheral device out--way faster... I understand that hardware has to advance, but this is a little overkill.
    
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post #18 of 32
Too much different crap. The universal standard is USB, why not just make a really damn fast, badass USB connector and skip all the annoying variants?
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post #19 of 32
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Originally Posted by JAM3S121;12550873 
But wasn't USB just improved with the relatively new and unused USB 3.0?

It's only unused because Intel is trying to kill off USB, which is solid and has lots of device and support; in order to herd people into their proprietary and oddball "technology" that has exactly zero peripherals. They can't even bring out the real LightPeak - they bring this Thunderbolt garbage out, probably because they can't get LightPeak to work properly or reliably. USB 3 should have been out a few years ago, but since Intel can't make it proprietary and Intel Only - they want to kill it off.

This is different from FireWire, where it is still the prime connection in the realm of professional gear. It's too bad that it died, partly because of the $1 license fee that manufacturers wouldn't cough up, partly because Apple never specified a proper bus voltage and current, and partly because MS couldn't be bothered to write a full driver for it, so it looked slow on benchmarks. Thunderbolt, without optical, will be stillborn because no manufacturer has even one peripheral on the market, and the extra cost may not be worth it because devices like mice, keyboards, printers, keychain and SD cards can not take advantage of the speed increase and will remain USB.

People that want high speed drives will already have them, either in an FW800 setup, and NAS, or eSATA - all of which have support, drivers, and availability. Thunderbolt... Well, who is going to migrate to it when it isn't LightPeak and isn't optical?
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Originally Posted by EvanPitts;12555399 
It's only unused because Intel is trying to kill off USB, which is solid and has lots of device and support; in order to herd people into their proprietary and oddball "technology" that has exactly zero peripherals. They can't even bring out the real LightPeak - they bring this Thunderbolt garbage out, probably because they can't get LightPeak to work properly or reliably. USB 3 should have been out a few years ago, but since Intel can't make it proprietary and Intel Only - they want to kill it off.

This is different from FireWire, where it is still the prime connection in the realm of professional gear. It's too bad that it died, partly because of the $1 license fee that manufacturers wouldn't cough up, partly because Apple never specified a proper bus voltage and current, and partly because MS couldn't be bothered to write a full driver for it, so it looked slow on benchmarks. Thunderbolt, without optical, will be stillborn because no manufacturer has even one peripheral on the market, and the extra cost may not be worth it because devices like mice, keyboards, printers, keychain and SD cards can not take advantage of the speed increase and will remain USB.

People that want high speed drives will already have them, either in an FW800 setup, and NAS, or eSATA - all of which have support, drivers, and availability. Thunderbolt... Well, who is going to migrate to it when it isn't LightPeak and isn't optical?

Basically, this.
    
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