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Try this one? http://valid.x86.fr/bkx298 smile.gif it opened when put in a blank tab. And here's a screen shot of 3dmark cloudgate results compared to similar gpu results. Couldn't find any other CPU results to compare with. Screenshot_5.png 63k .png file
My result is from P4EE 3,73GHz, but it's the same chip as Yours (Prescott-2M) difference lies with 1066MHz FSB : LINK
PS. Pentium 4 640 is Single Cored, Dual Thread CPU.

Hope it helps.
Also : Pentium 4's aren't supported by SystemInfo (at least usually). That's why U get blank search result.
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Someone gave me an old Optiplex 745 MT. It's a P4 3.4Ghz. with D9729 heatpipe cooler,and Delta AFC1212DE fan. It has a 3 phase VRM motherboard, and they even left out some MOSFETs, Only 2 per choke. It supports up to Q6700 CPU so probably 95W limit. I've been curious about what one of these can do. I'm going to heatsink the VRM and chipset, and run the fan off of a Molex since I know these mods can bring big benefits. I have a QX6700, and an X6800 to try. I'm not going to buy Enzotechs for this, just some aluminum finsinks. I might even cut them from the old GPU heatsink like someone on a budget might do.
If anyone is interested I posted a tutorial at Tomshardware "Overclocking Dell BTX Computers". and a review of "Throttlestop" software.
Happy Holidays and thanks to all who helped me with my project.
Edited by Retrorockit - 12/23/15 at 12:58pm
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Someone gave me an old Optiplex 745 MT. It's a P4 3.4Ghz. with D9729 heatpipe cooler,and Delta AFC1212DE fan. It has a 3 phase VRM motherboard, and they even left out some MOSFETs, Only 2 per choke. It supports up to Q6700 CPU so probably 95W limit. I've been curious about what one of these can do. I'm going to heatsink the VRM and chipset, and run the fan off of a Molex since I know these mods can bring big benefits. I have a QX6700, and an X6800 to try. I'm not going to buy Enzotechs for this, just some aluminum finsinks. I might even cut them from the old GPU heatsink like someone on a budget might do.
If anyone is interested I posted a tutorial at Tomshardware "Overclocking Dell BTX Computers". and a review of "Throttlestop" software.
Happy Holidays and thanks to all who helped me with my poroect.

Really nice article! +1 Since I am guessing you are too humble to post it yourself I figured I would link it up for you. ...LINK
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I've acquired a couple QX9650 CPUs. I'm looking for an old Dell to try overclocking them. One of them is the very common Optiplex 780. I know it responds to FSB software O/C, and I assume my favorite Throttlestop would work also. But it has 3 phase VRM and 95W CPU "limit" which I might be able to extend somewhat by removing the Delta fan from the MB like I did on my E520, and the usual BTX Video Card issues ( which I know how to deal with). The other one is the more expensive XPS630i. It has 4 phase VRM, SLI (8x+8x) and dual slot GPU capability (non BTX) The chipset is Nvidia 650iSLI.. it looks good on paper but I've seen some posts that people had to underclock the fsb from 1333 to 1183 for stability. I wonder if anybody knows what the deal is with this computer. 4 phase VRM, and 1333 fsb looks good, but not if I have to underclock the fsb to run it? Has anybody tried one of these and succeeded?

I went to Geekbench and saw XPS630i with QX6850@3.67scoring 6197, fast clock E8500@ 4.0Ghz.
Opti 780 with Q9650 scoring 5620 @ 3.00Ghz., fast C2Ds are at 3.33ghz. It looks like no O/Cs there for 780.
Of course Geekbench wont save the results from my SW O/C E520 so maybe that's why no O/C results for 780.
Edited by Retrorockit - 1/23/16 at 10:46am
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I've been working on the old Dimension E520 again. EVGA Supernova B2 750W PSU. Very tight fit, some "magic" words were used to get it in. But I needed 2-6 pin connectors and who knows how many watts the QX6800 consumes at 3.72Ghz.
Next up was the Sapphire Dual BIOS R9-285 ITX O/C video card.
I'm getting 93fps in Heaven 4.0, and 60fps in Valley.
My 3Dmark 11 score is up from 35% to 52% of computers tested so I'm feeling good about that.
It didn't take a lot of work to make the ITX card a BTX card. Temps. are good 62*C, of course it's winter so that may go up some later.
Of course since it's a Dell there has too be some strangeness to report.
I've been using sleep mode to ignore a "fan fail" message from the BIOS caused by my removing the 1.6A. Delta fan from the MB and installing a 3.4A Delta in it's place. Some where in the powering on and off to remove and install GPU drivers on 2 HDD the BIOS seems to have given up reporting the "error". That's a good thing because I can no longer enter SETUP because my new GPU doesn't support the BIOS "video mode 103". So much for legacy BIOS compatibility.Maybe I need older driver versions? I've got service tags open with Sapphire and AMD. Maybe i've finally gone too far!

This is Dell Forums response to asking if my BIOS video setting could be adjusted.

That $300 video card is for a high powered, much faster and much more recent computer. The E520 is an obsolete model now and cannot run that card. You should return the card and put that money towards a new computer. You can buy a new computer now that cost less than the video card.

I just ordered another R9-285 ITX O/C from Newegg for $170.
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I've acquired a couple QX9650 CPUs. I'm looking for an old Dell to try overclocking them. One of them is the very common Optiplex 780. I know it responds to FSB software O/C, and I assume my favorite Throttlestop would work also. But it has 3 phase VRM and 95W CPU "limit" which I might be able to extend somewhat by removing the Delta fan from the MB like I did on my E520, and the usual BTX Video Card issues ( which I know how to deal with). The other one is the more expensive XPS630i. It has 4 phase VRM, SLI (8x+8x) and dual slot GPU capability (non BTX) The chipset is Nvidia 650iSLI.. it looks good on paper but I've seen some posts that people had to underclock the fsb from 1333 to 1183 for stability. I wonder if anybody knows what the deal is with this computer. 4 phase VRM, and 1333 fsb looks good, but not if I have to underclock the fsb to run it? Has anybody tried one of these and succeeded?

I went to Geekbench and saw XPS630i with QX6850@3.67scoring 6197, fast clock E8500@ 4.0Ghz.
Opti 780 with Q9650 scoring 5620 @ 3.00Ghz., fast C2Ds are at 3.33ghz. It looks like no O/Cs there for 780.
Of course Geekbench wont save the results from my SW O/C E520 so maybe that's why no O/C results for 780.


I would just go 780 then since the 630i isn't sounding the best. If you ever get a spare $100 you can get a P45/X48 Mobo and OC the QX's to the moon. lol
 
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I think the reason there are no O/C 780s at Geekbench is because GB doesn't accept software O/Cs. At least they won't accept mine.
It cites timing errors and won't save the results. 780s are cheap too. I've made a hobby of modding Dell BTXs. It takes up my spare time. Parts are cheap, and sometimes you get surprising results (good, and bad). I'll see what a 780 can do because a lot of people are buying them as refurbs and the data will be useful.
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I found this Dell LGA775 compact 130W+ cooler for $12 on Ebay. 96X96X125mm.

Part# 0N764D with 81CFM 92mm fan inside draws .56A. That's some seriously tight fins per inch there.

Heatpipe layout and fan cover.

Bottom view.

The cooler is made by AVC, and their 3 heatpipe version is rated for 130W. So lets estimate maybe 150W compact cooler?
http://www.avc.com.tw/product_detail.asp?id=31
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Looks like coarse-threaded screws there.. I wonder if that's even compatible with most other 775 xeon systems, might be dell-only or hp-only or whatever it originally came in.
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I've adapted a Dell heatsink (not that one though) just by changing the screws and using short springs for tension.
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