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I kinda miss my old Q6600. Had so much fun and learned so much using it. Still remember pushing it to 4.2GHz in the cold and having my UD3P inductors squeal from the power it was pulling. tongue.gif
 
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I have a DQ6 in the other room in a box.. I've overclocked the everloving s--- out of it over the years and used it for all of my "what happens when 775 chips run at 120c" tests and ran a core2duo wolfdale chip @ 5.4 ghz on water in it @ 1.7v and stuff like that. It's mostly burnt out by now and won't accept dual cores any more and flakes out and does "boot looping" with any core2quad in it.

I recently picked up a P5E3 premium wifi-ap board off ebay for $34 total shipped, but I haven't done a lot with it. I had a core2duo wolfdale chip in it perfectly stable @ 4.78 Ghz and gamed on it for a little while. But then I had to swap it's power supply in to my X99 rig and set up the P5E3 board on my refurbished seasonic 1KW platinum psu and it won't even POST at the OC that was stable with the other power supply. I need to go get in there and sit down and re-tune it and see where I can get it on this crappy power supply and play with it. I wanted to set it as a Windows-XP-32 retro gaming rig for some older games. Doubt I'll ever get the cpu to or past 4.5 ghz until I get another power supply for it. It's assembled and built in the other room I just haven't re-tuned it yet for this other PSU. I did like however that I can save it's bios profiles to a usb flash stick and restore from it later, which essentially means thousands of possible OC profiles to save. Even supports sub-folders and such.

I haven't put any quads in the P5E3 yet, I really should get a few since they're so cheap, look for a bundle listing or something.

still rocking the p5e3 deluxe with a q9550 at 1ghz over stock with a gtx770 4gb, the deluxe is addr3 board. won't run 8gb modules though frown.gif never could squeeze anything more than 1ghz though. i have a twin in case mine blows up, no idea who the twin OCs, it had dragon skin for extra cold OCing so hopefully it ins'ta used up burlap sack if i ever need it.

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Funny how some older games play better on the hardware of their day than on new hardware.

hardley, they used features of the hardware. that's why wing command lags like frozen molasses if it's not on a 486, it doesn't have the same interrupts or the same bits per cycle per clock or god knows what.
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Funny how some older games play better on the hardware of their day than on new hardware.

Yep. I still have my sequential-serial-number mated pair I bought new of my EVGA GTX 470 Hydro Copper FTW cards that run +36% OC core & +24% OC ram and I keep em in a box in the other room with custom bios and the voltage and clocks plugged in. Still not sure what I'm going to do to get em going but I want to get both of em set up to use in WinXP-32 gaming rig some day.. the P5E3's a crossfire board... so just using 1 in it right now. Haven't found a decently powerful SLI-capable board that's compatible with XP-32 for < $100 on ebay in a while.. maybe some day.

Always had dreamed of getting my paws on a EVGA nForce 780i SLI FTW motherboard some day.. all the used ones on ebay are like $150 - $200 still though.. probably one of "the ultimate SLI 775" boards. Maybe some day I'll get lucky and find one $50 or less if I keep looking.
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Finally 4.0Ghz stable!
Mobo: ASUS P5Q-E
Cooler: Cryorig R1

It's all in the GTL Ref settings; before tweaking these values [CPU/NB GTL Ref] I managed to push my chip to 4.0ghz stable but with really massive voltages then I've read some articles talking about the GTL and how a small increase have such a large impact in stability so I just played with it bumping up the NB GTL from AUTO=0.630x to 0.635x and the CPU GTL [0/2], [1/3] from AUTO to 0.640x/0.680x and these are my BIOS settings
before / after..
vCore: 1.4v / 1.275v
CPU PLL: 1.6v / 1.5v
VTT: 1.44v / 1.20v
vNB: 1.46v / 1.26

I've read a lot of overclocking articles and only few ones talking about the GTL and the vast majority of the guides suggest to leave it on AUTO!
I want to say that any small decrease to these huge voltages before tweaking the GTL and I can't stand for 2 passes in IBT or 3mins in OCCT and I'm still working to get lower voltages.

I will have to try changing those GTL settings on mine, thanks
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Yep. I still have my sequential-serial-number mated pair I bought new of my EVGA GTX 470 Hydro Copper FTW cards that run +36% OC core & +24% OC ram and I keep em in a box in the other room with custom bios and the voltage and clocks plugged in. Still not sure what I'm going to do to get em going but I want to get both of em set up to use in WinXP-32 gaming rig some day.. the P5E3's a crossfire board... so just using 1 in it right now. Haven't found a decently powerful SLI-capable board that's compatible with XP-32 for < $100 on ebay in a while.. maybe some day.

Always had dreamed of getting my paws on a EVGA nForce 780i SLI FTW motherboard some day.. all the used ones on ebay are like $150 - $200 still though.. probably one of "the ultimate SLI 775" boards. Maybe some day I'll get lucky and find one $50 or less if I keep looking.
Dell even put 1 of the 790i boards with the sli into their xps730. It had a bios that allowed OC'ing. For those who might like to experiment,the bios chip is removable so a chip from similar board couls maybe be subbed? Oh, they have the 4 ddr3 slots also. :thumb:Here's 1 of the boards on ebay if interested for $50.00 U.S. with free shipping. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-NEW-Dell-XPS-730-SLI-Desktop-Motherboard-System-Board-F642F-CN-0F642F-/232381600706?epid=1400344116&hash=item361b05d3c2:g:yk0AAOSwjvJZSrI2 Edit: No,not my listing.
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Funny how some older games play better on the hardware of their day than on new hardware.

Same as DX9 titles play better in XP than newer versions of Windows. smile.gif

I'm not programmer but if I were to hazard a guess it was probably because what we now consider as "old hardware" was state of the art when the game was released. Publishers usually don't factor in hypothetical hardware down the road when making their games. biggrin.gif
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Dell even put 1 of the 790i boards with the sli into their xps730. It had a bios that allowed OC'ing. For those who might like to experiment,the bios chip is removable so a chip from similar board couls maybe be subbed? Oh, they have the 4 ddr3 slots also. :thumb:Here's 1 of the boards on ebay if interested for $50.00 U.S. with free shipping. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-NEW-Dell-XPS-730-SLI-Desktop-Motherboard-System-Board-F642F-CN-0F642F-/232381600706?epid=1400344116&hash=item361b05d3c2:g:yk0AAOSwjvJZSrI2 Edit: No,not my listing.

Thanks but.. if I get a 790i board I'd rather try and get 'the best one' if I'm going to later.

See here:

The EVGA 790i FTW board has lots of advantages, more power phases, all solid, low-esr capacitors all around, etc. Friend of mine in another state bought one off ebay 3 months ago to make an XP-32 build out of it, has 3 x GTX-285's in it and tells me it'll load DDR3 @ XMP @ 2133 mhz out of the box without doing anything, just load XMP in bios and F10 and it goes. They're supposedly one of the best 775 boards that were used for a lot of record-setting during the height of the 775 era.
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I kinda miss my old Q6600. Had so much fun and learned so much using it. Still remember pushing it to 4.2GHz in the cold and having my UD3P inductors squeal from the power it was pulling. tongue.gif
Can't agree anymore, It's a very scholastic platform! Overclocking on nowadays boards just like riding your daddy's rapid car while with the older sockets you're the guy behind the wheel and as you said it's so much fun to play around with these old stuff just like an old car getting pimped out!

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the P5E3's a crossfire board... so just using 1 in it right now. Haven't found a decently powerful SLI-capable board that's compatible with XP-32 for < $100 on ebay in a while.. maybe some day.
Always had dreamed of getting my paws on a EVGA nForce 780i SLI FTW motherboard some day.. all the used ones on ebay are like $150 - $200 still though.. probably one of "the ultimate SLI 775" boards. Maybe some day I'll get lucky and find one $50 or less if I keep looking.
If you're willing to settle on this socket I think it's better to look for a P45 board it's a superior overclocker to the 780i and you will benefit from the Intel ICH10 chipset harddrivers performance.
And as for the SLI, Did you try the SLI on a non-SLI Motherboard Patch? I don't know so much about it but here's a link it might help; http://www.overclock.net/t/670810/howto-sli-on-a-non-sli-motherboard-gtx5xx-compatible-1-0-final-released

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I will have to try changing those GTL settings on mine, thanks
You are welcome I hope it's gonna to work for you. Do not worry about optimizing your GTLs, but do not go beyond the limits! All technical documents from Intel suggest 0.720x is the limit and also remember that GTLs are derived from FSB Termination voltage so let's say that you set CPU GTL Ref [0/2] to 0.64 and your vFSB is 1.26v then the actual GTL voltage would be 0.64 x 1.26 = 0.8064v for these two pairs of cores what I want to say don't go so high with VTT when your bumping up your GTLs as anadatech has sent their QX9650 to death with 1.5v of VTT so play it safe and don't exceed 1.4v, 1.45v would be your absolute max but I think with some NB/CPU GTLs tweaking you'll managed to greatly lower your VTT!

Also you might want to play with Ai Transaction Booster\"common performance level" I can't post with 10 or lower, 11 isn not stable but 100% stable with 12 I think i can tighten it with more nb voltage so try to loose it when you're tweaking your voltages then put it to the lower stable value. and make sure to set your Ai Clock Twister to light or even lighter I can't stand for 2 passes in IBT with "strong" but it's fine with moderate!
Edited by Malik Sajid - 10/18/17 at 1:28pm
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Dell even put 1 of the 790i boards with the sli into their xps730. It had a bios that allowed OC'ing. For those who might like to experiment,the bios chip is removable so a chip from similar board couls maybe be subbed? Oh, they have the 4 ddr3 slots also. :thumb:Here's 1 of the boards on ebay if interested for $50.00 U.S. with free shipping. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-NEW-Dell-XPS-730-SLI-Desktop-Motherboard-System-Board-F642F-CN-0F642F-/232381600706?epid=1400344116&hash=item361b05d3c2:g:yk0AAOSwjvJZSrI2 Edit: No,not my listing.

With Dell I would always recommend getting a whole computer. Proprietary front I/O cables, rear I/O plates built into the case, and on some XPS/ Alienware models proprietary H2O cooler connectors on the PSU.
The workstations are dual GPU but Dell sold AMD in them and newer AMD cards have a problem with old Dell BIOS this started with R9-285 and R9-3xx cards. So R9-290 would be about it.
Sometimes you can get one for only a little more than the CPU in it.

I don't disagree with the suggestion, I just think a bare MB is going to be a lot of trouble.
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My ancient chip at 3.8 managed to do 424 in cinebench R15 and 109 single threaded. Not bad for a CPU that's over 9 years old.
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