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" I got about the same amount of frame rates on FarCry2 as the i7-950 rig with same 2x 5770CF GPU, at 1080p resolution. "

Would be interested in seeing proof of this. With stock machines, according to Anand's bench, there's about 27 FPS difference between the 1055t and 950 in Farcry 2. Have any hard numbers? Screenshots of the bench?

Farcry 2 is notoriously Intel/Nvidia biased.

Oh, I'd also argue the i5 2500k is by far the best bang for buck, but that might not apply here since you got the hexcore used. I don't see how anyone can argue in favor of the hexcores against the 2500k.
Edited by pursuinginsanity - 2/28/11 at 1:05am
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" I got about the same amount of frame rates on FarCry2 as the i7-950 rig with same 2x 5770CF GPU, at 1080p resolution. "

Would be interested in seeing proof of this. With stock machines, according to Anand's bench, there's about 27 FPS difference between the 1055t and 950 in Farcry 2. Have any hard numbers? Screenshots of the bench?

Farcry 2 is notoriously Intel/Nvidia biased.

Oh, I'd also argue the i5 2500k is by far the best bang for buck, but that might not apply here since you got the hexcore used. I don't see how anyone can argue in favor of the hexcores against the 2500k.
I thought I was pretty clear that this was not a comparative/flame thread between AMD/Intel, but I guess for some people, it's pretty hard to read through all the words... Did you even read the entire post, or did you stop after you saw the "BEST BANG FOR BUCK?"

Please don't turn my thread into something it's not.

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it's all ok what you said, but with one thing i would argue though
you say that for like 50 bucks more you can get intel which is a bit faster
and this is where i start to argue
amd users don't have to get a pretty costly motherboard that you got, and a socket sticks for years, that's a huge deal that you overlooked
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agree , there are plenty good AMD mobos with crossfire and 8+2 power phase in the 100$ range , a 240$ CIV is a luxory for AMD fans because clearly u could get a better performance intel rig for same price .
I get that. That's why I said Maximus III Formula is a bit more than the CIV, which made the price difference around 100 bucks. Not quite Apples to Apples, but have to admit, same class of boards between the two no? It would be equally unfair to compare M3F to a $100 AMD board now wouldn't it?

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Does not compute with this thread 0.o

AMD upgrade wise is cheaper, AMD is best bang for buck.
Had m4n82 for year and something, started with athlon in it and ended with 1090, how intel can compete with that?

If it wasn't for deal that i got i've would've just continue using amd rig instead of intel that i have now. More money for e-peen.
As for my work, just because I didn't get into details of what I do, which is very niche and industry specific, it doesn't mean that my lack of AMD knowledge or experience make me any less competent. System building and OCing is a hobby not a career of mine...

As for your other statement, I guess I am a bit conflicted since I didn't start with Athlon but rather dove straight into Hex. So, it really doesn't serve relevance to this thread in terms of what MY experience with THIS specific build.

In terms of your e-peen problem, I am sure there are outlets where you could unload your e-peen machine for an AMD machine no problem.
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i feel like OP got flamed for no reason , where the love guys ? =)
GoHigh i got a quick question , wouldnt a dual quad core opty or dual 12 core opty system be more usefull for your needs then those 5 gaming rigs u got in ur sig ?
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[QUOTE=RabbitGT;12553147]i feel like OP got flamed for no reason , where the love guys ? =)/QUOTE]

Intel vs AMD isn't a flame thread?
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I have been an observer for awhile of all this AMD/Intel debate or flame for awhile, and I thought it might be a good idea to see what the AMD was all about. So far, if I got this correctly, most appealing side of AMD seems to be that:

1. Bang for Buck
2. Bang for Buck
3. Bang for Buck
4. Not the fastest, but fast enough.

My part list is as follows:

1. Asus Crosshair IV Formula
2. AMD 1055T
3. G.Skill Ripjaw 8GB 1600
4. Corsair H50
5. Antec 902
6. Seagate 1TB SATA2
7. 2x ATI 5770 CF
8. Antec 850W PSU

The CPU/Mobo was purchased here on OCN from another member, case bought from BestBuy, RAM bought from Newegg, and everything else I had laying around so the cost for the build is a bit skewed. For the most part, it would have cost me about the same amount of money if I were to have bought an i5 Quad, with comparable mobo since I live pretty close to MC. However, this build was more for the experience rather than for comparison.

The primary use for this PC, as redundant and overkill as it might seem, is actually a replacement for my i3-530, 4.4Ghz, HTPC. I will be doing some gaming on this PC however, so a little robustness was needed. I play via XBOX/PS3 controller, mostly racing games and some FPS.

While a direct comparison was not the purpose of this build, and I have not done any benchmarks (that's not really my thing), I have learned the following.

1. Pretty easy to OC, just searching through the forum. I was able to get 4.0Ghz with what seems to be a fairly safe voltage, although I won't be pushing much further. So far, the machine sits 6 hour LinX stable, and 12hour Prime95 stable. The temps are fairly reasonable, with CPU temps reaching 60c max. I could upgrade the fans to get a little better temps, but noise was an issue for me, so I am pretty happy with the results.

2. Does not bottleneck the 2x 5770 CF, so I am pretty happy I guess. I got about the same amount of frame rates on FarCry2 as the i7-950 rig with same 2x 5770CF GPU, at 1080p resolution.

3. The whole temp monitor issue does concern me, as I have read that the actual core temp is not correct as reported by most monitoring programs. I could run the OC a bit lower to be really safe, but I figured the best thing about AMD is cheap CPU prices, and by the time this one burns out, I could just buy another one for fairly cheap.

4. It does it's job really well. Although I am not asking much from it, it does what I ask it to do without much complaining, so pretty happy. I haven't tried encoding videos yet, but I am sure it will do it just fine.

5. Does it bother me that maybe it's not as fast as Intel for some tasks? Maybe... But I am not really into benching, and so far I have 2x i7-920s, 1x i7-950, 1x i7-875K, 2x i3-530, 1x i5-760 machines, so I just wanted a change of pace.

6. Bang for buck? Not so sure. Like I said, I could have gotten another i5 or maybe even an i7-870 for maybe a 50bucks more. The motherboard was a bit cheaper than Maximus III Formula, so I guess the total savings over an i7-870 would have been about 100 bucks or so. I guess that's no chump change, but I do think there is something to be said in terms of value... You do get a bit faster system for that extra 100 bucks, so I guess it's about the same. For most people, I am sure this is fine, but would I want it as my primary system over the i7? Probably not.


Obviously, I am not trying to start a flame war here, but at least I took the initiative to try something before commenting. My overall experience with the build has been pretty satisfactory, and if the BD is every bit as good as they say that it is, I might even build one of those too. All in all, I am glad that I tried it. At least I know how to OC an AMD now to 4Ghz too, and it was very easy.

It's like that place you drive by everyday, that burger joint that always seems to have customers in their parking lot. You keep meaning to stop and eat there one day, but always end up somewhere else to eat. And then one day, you stop, feeling adventurous, and order their cheeseburger, to discover that it's pretty good! Is it the best burger you had ever? No, probably not. But it fills you up, you like their service, the beef was good, and you end up leaving satisfied and happy.














You could have gotten a motherboard that cost alot less..... then it would have been cheaper..... I mean, my motherboard/cpu combo was $169.99
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Awesome build! I have been on the fence about 5770 CF for quite a long time, Could you post some benchmarks of the same?
I think driver updates have affected Juniper XT CF-scaling? All the reviews out there use dated drivers and hence I cannot really make a decision.
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Yes i was just going to say.... That is one awesome looking system!
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I always recommend AMD for builds that don't demand high performance just to support the competition.

Without AMD, We'd all be screwed over.

I've also been a huge fan of ATI/AMD GPU's for nearly a decade. It's been a bumpy road, mind.
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I always recommend AMD for builds that don't demand high performance just to support the competition.

Without AMD, We'd all be screwed over.

I've also been a huge fan of ATI/AMD GPU's for nearly a decade. It's been a bumpy road, mind.
AMD have it where it counts.
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[quote=DiNet;12554375]
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i feel like OP got flamed for no reason , where the love guys ? =)/QUOTE]

Intel vs AMD isn't a flame thread?
Just because Intel and AMD may sit next to each other in the same sentence, it doesn't mean that it's war all the time. Please refrain from defense mode and take the thread for what it is... Just one guy's log about his first time journey into AMDville. Shalom...
Edited by GoHigh - 2/28/11 at 3:07pm
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