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http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=172

go to filesystem tools -> NTFS offline password and registry tool

then follow the default values for each of the accounts. remember the accounts are hex so start with "0x" then type the account number. for example 0x3e0.

I'll try and find a tutorial

I do this at work everyday for my job since customers never supply their passwords. We just blank them and keep on trucking.

Make sure the computer is shut down cleanly. ie don't just hold the powerbutton or shut down from safemode. If it's not "cleanly" shut down, the OS locks the SAM file and marks it as read only. There are programs to unlock the SAM file, so it's not impossible. The password editor on UBCD4Win can.
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post #22 of 41
Hirens Boot CD 10 has a password cracker on it. I use it sometimes and it works well.
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Apparently you guys don't have kids or you would see that his parents are reacting to his "shmoozing" i.e. lying to his parents to play games. They are just trying to infuse a little responsibility into him for his own good.

If he fails that subject, it's purely his own fault. How can his parents trust him if he's lied in the past? And what do you think they will do if they find that he's cracked the password?

It'll just get worse. He needs to work something out so that he can still game but get his homework done. I'm sure there's a common ground. Lying and trickery are not the way to accomplish anything. It'll bite him in his behind eventually and things will only be worse.
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Burn an Ophcrack disc and run it. Like a brute force attack, it will tell you every password saved on the local harddrive.
    
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kon boot works every time. I cart it everywhere with me on a thumb drive
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post #26 of 41
If he had an eSata port and an external HDD, couldn't he just copy the install to it and boot off of that? If he can take it with him, then his parents won't be able to do much as long as it is out of his parent's hands.

That obviously doesn't help now, but for future use.
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Originally Posted by hollywood406 View Post
Apparently you guys don't have kids or you would see that his parents are reacting to his "shmoozing" i.e. lying to his parents to play games. They are just trying to infuse a little responsibility into him for his own good.

If he fails that subject, it's purely his own fault. How can his parents trust him if he's lied in the past? And what do you think they will do if they find that he's cracked the password?

It'll just get worse. He needs to work something out so that he can still game but get his homework done. I'm sure there's a common ground. Lying and trickery are not the way to accomplish anything. It'll bite him in his behind eventually and things will only be worse.
Rant incoming...
His parents sound like mine... and if they are anything like mine they would annoy me to no end. All the stuff my parents would do to "restrict" me would only me try harder to disobey them. They would always say that I didn't know what was best for me because I was just a kid, but who are they to tell me how to manage my time and what I can/can't do. Even if they let me do whatever I wanted to doesn't mean I would for sure do it, but I like being able to know that I can do it if I wanted to. I hate knowing I am not allowed to do something even if it includes something I wouldn't even do if given the opportunity.

I have a bunch of friends with parents that just control their children's lives like a puppet master, and it just disgusts me. They are home schooled, can't watch TV, no computer, etc. It just makes me sad when I think of what will happen to these kids when they have to go out into the real world and figure out everything without being comforted by their parents. They come to realize that life isn't as sweet as when they were cooked up in their house all day every day.

I left my parents as soon as I turned 18, and I look back wishing I could have left on better terms... but they drove me to do so with (what they thought) was good parenting. Maybe I am just naturally resistant to authority but hearing stuff like this makes me mad.
End rant.
post #28 of 41
Whoa, and that is the reason why I keep MY own user account and have the Admin account passworded with my passwords. Hahahaha. Also. Try Hiren's Boot. it helps, maybe you could boot into the WIndows XP version in the disc.
   
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post #29 of 41
Tell him to physically remove the HDD from the PC and hand it in to the teacher. Now the dialog will be between the parent and the teacher which if his parents are "tiger moming him" at least the teacher will be much more understanding in the future.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Semper Fidelis View Post
Rant incoming...
His parents sound like mine... and if they are anything like mine they would annoy me to no end. All the stuff my parents would do to "restrict" me would only me try harder to disobey them. They would always say that I didn't know what was best for me because I was just a kid, but who are they to tell me how to manage my time and what I can/can't do. Even if they let me do whatever I wanted to doesn't mean I would for sure do it, but I like being able to know that I can do it if I wanted to. I hate knowing I am not allowed to do something even if it includes something I wouldn't even do if given the opportunity.

I have a bunch of friends with parents that just control their children's lives like a puppet master, and it just disgusts me. They are home schooled, can't watch TV, no computer, etc. It just makes me sad when I think of what will happen to these kids when they have to go out into the real world and figure out everything without being comforted by their parents. They come to realize that life isn't as sweet as when they were cooked up in their house all day every day.

I left my parents as soon as I turned 18, and I look back wishing I could have left on better terms... but they drove me to do so with (what they thought) was good parenting. Maybe I am just naturally resistant to authority but hearing stuff like this makes me mad.
End rant.
Of course there will always be parents that take things too far and are super strict. In this case, the parents did allow him to play, they just wanted to restrict how much time he spent playing. How long was he playing and how much is too much? I couldn't tell you but they need to come up with a compromise or they will surely alienate each other as happened to you and your parents.

A parents Love and Attention is a tough pill to swallow sometimes.........
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