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Good thing this didn't happen to me, I would have been beyond pissed off, especially considering that email is one of the main ways that Army ROTC headquarters gets in touch with me and I have some rather important emails I would like to keep.
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Both "retrieve", but Live requires Cloud connectivity, while Thunderbird (or whatever mail reader) can be used offline when required. Thunderbird is also non-proprietary and can be set up with a number of services. This is something that I need, since I draw mail from a number of servers, like GMail, my ISP's mail service, and my work email. I also have the need to view certain emails when I am away from access points and at other sites where I do not have administrative access on their servers.

For people that use Hotmail only, and have a constant Internet connection, Live might be an acceptable tool - but I find that a real, stand alone mail reader to be a better experience, especially in a mixed environment where mail is pulled from different sources, and where one needs a fair amount of flexibility. I find that Live tends to be bloated and sluggish - but then, I have the same complaint about Thunderbird. I think MS really needs to reconsider Live, perhaps have their developers use real Cloud applications like Citrix, and see how the real world operates. Of course, MS has taken steps, because Live used to be real dreck.

I just don't like being completely dependent upon Cloud applications - especially after working in a place that is overly dependent upon the Cloud; so I have all of the tools that I need loaded directly on my machines so that if the Cloud goes down, or if they bork the firewall that chops services (like yesterday, when they chopped the port for email - so I couldn't even send them a service request to restore my email...) I can keep on working through alternate means.
Interesting, I wasn't aware it used cloud connectivity; never bothered to care because I never had issues with it, but those are valid concerns.
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Official statement from Google here
    
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Ummmm I think that you're confusing GMail with Hotmail. The reason most forums don't allow Gmail accounts is cause Gmails spam filter will send their validation mails to the junk pile. Just like the 49erswebzone doesn't allow Yahoo members for the very same reason.

Don't know where you got that Gmail members are spammers but my account got disabled for a day just cause it thought I spammed. I hadda log in and then hadda confirm that I was indeed human with a stupid Captcha link. Gmail is actually used by more schools than any other mail system for EXACTLY that reason. I rarely if ever get spam in my Gmail account. Hell sometimes I have to go back and look in the Ashcan to make sure nothing important got diverted there.

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I agree. The gmail users are spammers claim is ridiculous.
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I use google docs..best check incase eh.
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Official statement from Google here
Would be nice if you didn't spam us with a link to Wiki. One that has x-rated smut on it.

I'm no prude but c'mon man not everyone is going to appreciate your humor in this regard.

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Interesting, I wasn't aware it used cloud connectivity; never bothered to care because I never had issues with it, but those are valid concerns.
I don't think they need to be big concerns, but are things people need to consider. If I was basically just at home, I might use Cloud only, just to keep things light at this end. But once I mix work in, and that I am in shared services and am quite often on the road, or at other sites, where I either have no internet connection, or can only score a guest account - it is a big consideration.

Our workplace uses all kinds of Cloud applications, run off a Citrix server. And they do work well, as long as the network is running. But I like to have hard copies of applications, or at least work-alikes, so I can work when the network is down for maintenance. With all of the renovations and construction that is going on at the sites, this is something fairly common. So even though I will use Word off of Citrix, I will also have Portable OpenOffice so I can do stuff - when the net is down, or if I am at remote sites where I can't access Citrix.

I am less keen about Cloud applications that let you edit movies - simply because in this country, Internet is being capped, throttled, inspected and metered. Cloud can be costly for those applications. It also depends on speed, because Citrix is only really usuable on a network with low latency and free of excessive traffic... Even in the workplace, I avoid loading applications at the rush hours, like around 9am - because it is slower than loading off of floppies. And our work order database at 3:30pm - guaranteed crashes, smart indexing, and frustration. Not that those things are problems with say, Live - but they can be if an ISP throttles and caps, and makes it useless. It's a balance, and for mail reading, I prefer a mail reader just because of the situations I find myself in.
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